Ivan Balabanov

What do you think, Jan, with... I mean, you were able to do one of the biggest world championship, the WSV. And those were the good times. The good times meaning you were able to use the stick hit. And it was very normal part of the program at the time. Yeah.

What do you think, Jan, with... I mean, you were able to do one of the biggest world championship, the WSV. And those were the good times. The good times meaning you were able to use the stick hit. And it was very normal part of the program at the time. Yeah.

Now, I think we're going in two years without the stickheads and I was just watching the tzatzit a week ago and the helpers were struggling to try to put some pressure, if you can even call it that. But how do you feel about that big change that happened with the stickheads?

Now, I think we're going in two years without the stickheads and I was just watching the tzatzit a week ago and the helpers were struggling to try to put some pressure, if you can even call it that. But how do you feel about that big change that happened with the stickheads?

There wasn't any pressure from anywhere as far as nobody knows.

There wasn't any pressure from anywhere as far as nobody knows.

Because it's really difficult, at least, like it's left to speculation and guess to the judge of, well, is that dog really... And when you have protection, when you have that... fighting between dog and a helper and you take out the most important part which is that little aversiveness in the fight it's like boxing but the shadow boxing you know when you're not punching you're just doing

Because it's really difficult, at least, like it's left to speculation and guess to the judge of, well, is that dog really... And when you have protection, when you have that... fighting between dog and a helper and you take out the most important part which is that little aversiveness in the fight it's like boxing but the shadow boxing you know when you're not punching you're just doing

that moment and well it's sad and a lot of well not a lot but at least some of the influential trainers and people that are having positions in like utility commissions and different boards of the world clubs some of them still very convincing trying to convince everybody that the stick is not needed to evaluate the dog and you can put pressure in a different way and basically there is no reason.

that moment and well it's sad and a lot of well not a lot but at least some of the influential trainers and people that are having positions in like utility commissions and different boards of the world clubs some of them still very convincing trying to convince everybody that the stick is not needed to evaluate the dog and you can put pressure in a different way and basically there is no reason.

Right, because what are you left with as a helper when you don't have the stick yet?

Right, because what are you left with as a helper when you don't have the stick yet?

Right. Meaning keep it kind of drives a little bit changing because. And yeah, there is some yelling and screaming, but. Yeah, but only for the long bite. Yeah. And even then it's, it cannot compare to the stick hit. But what about like in training? Do you like, I mean, you said we like, in fact, there is like our Allbreed program. We have a title that we still can use stick hits.

Right. Meaning keep it kind of drives a little bit changing because. And yeah, there is some yelling and screaming, but. Yeah, but only for the long bite. Yeah. And even then it's, it cannot compare to the stick hit. But what about like in training? Do you like, I mean, you said we like, in fact, there is like our Allbreed program. We have a title that we still can use stick hits.

I wish that we play by those rules like in a month now we have the AWDF championship. I wish that we play by the rules where the stick hits are allowed and still select the dogs for the FCI because it's a selection trial for FCI, but I don't think we're doing that. In

I wish that we play by those rules like in a month now we have the AWDF championship. I wish that we play by the rules where the stick hits are allowed and still select the dogs for the FCI because it's a selection trial for FCI, but I don't think we're doing that. In

In Holland, for the most part, or at least the people that you work with and that you know, do you guys still use the stick, at least in training?

In Holland, for the most part, or at least the people that you work with and that you know, do you guys still use the stick, at least in training?

Right, there's got to be a punch.

Right, there's got to be a punch.