Ivan Volt

Yeah.

I was about to say paddle boarding's surely not... No.

Yeah, because like, you know... I did a lot of kayaking and also a lot of the Norwegians at least, they do for cross training during winter, winter training, right?

Yes.

And it's... We need to just... It's a really, really good...

like building the foundation it's a really good aerobic exercise let's hear your let's go deeper into your story right okay yeah yeah so um um yeah okay let's let's take it from from the beginning so i am um i'm uh i i grew up with um two brothers i'm the middle so my older brother he's um

Have you heard of Norseman?

Yeah.

You know about it?

I know what Norseman is, yeah.

Yeah, so some people, they say it's like the toughest triathlon or the toughest Ironman.

Exactly, exactly.

Very cold water.

Right.

So my older brother, he held the track record for seven years, I think.

Yeah.

So he was a good athlete.

My younger brother was a kayaker as me and probably more talented.

So we were doing the double before.

This is back in 2019.