Ivo Graham

Like in terms of the film I've watched the most, the film I've tried to work out whenever I've tried to write movies, which hasn't been very many times.

It is Jaws.

It is perfect.

Everything's great.

You feel great at the end, even though a man has died.

You're just delighted with a shark and a man have died.

Take this, Ivo, as a sort of obscure cultural reference.

It's used quite a lot.

Someone will be described as like the mayor from Jaws, which is the person who appears.

teases the bad thing happening that inevitably leads to the catastrophe.

But I'm interested, would you have understood what that reference was or have we opened your eyes?

I'd love to have been with Ivo the first time he saw Hamlet.

And when it's to be or not to be, he's just like, fuck!

You want the Sharks' whole family to be interviewed afterwards.

I wish you the very best.

Did you, as you went off to sleep though, so the scariest bit in Jaws is where the head of the dead fisherman unexpectedly appears in the crack, which if you watch the making of, in the first cut of it that they actually showed publicly to test audiences, Spielberg sat there and said this was a scary moment, but he thought this could be, and it's the first time I'd heard the word used, a jump scare moment.

Wow.

So they actually reshot it and retimed it then.

So the face and the music appear to absolutely terrify you.

That, because I saw Jaws when I was too young and that did terrify me.