Jürgen Hart

said the US still needed Europe. In the era of great power rivalry, even the United States will not be powerful enough to go it alone. So let's repair and revive transatlantic trust.

I think the last three months show how it works. If someone would have told me in November, the European Union and the other European NATO partners like UK and Norway would face the threat of 28 bullet points on Ukraine by Donald Trump. A mysterious process down to the 20 points we have now agreed between US and Europe and Ukraine.

And second, to bring the president of the United States away from his mysterious plan to integrate Greenland into the U.S. In both, Europe was successful. And I think this is the way we have to go. We have to do the things that we think that are necessary for us. And with that, we will impress our American partners because they have reliable partners in us concerning defense, but also concerning economics and concerning security.

ja tuoda enemmän ympäristöä valtioiden kautta, kuten Suomessa tai Ruotsissa, energiasta tai uusista teknologioista. Esimerkiksi jos puhutaan Yhdysvaltain puheenjohtajien osalta, niin luulen, että suurin osa on jatkuva transatlanttinen yhteistyö.

Not only defense, but also economic-wise and in other political fields like rule-based world order and other things. Donald Trump saw with the reaction of the Senate on his Venezuela activities that he cannot be sure that there is a majority in the Senate kept by the Republicans for him.

Ja minusta tämä oli myös yksi syy, miksi hän aloitti Greenlandin puolesta ja miksi hän on nyt suurempi puolesta Euroopassa ja Suomessa. Koska me olemme yhdessä Euroopassa, ei vain Euroopan unionissa, vaan tärkeissä valtioissa kuten Suomessa.

Yritysjärjestö Jürgen Hart.

Sanoin itselleen, että elämäni oli rauhassa, että minulla ei ollut mitään jälkeen, muuta kuin lapseni. Se oli heidän perheensä. Heidän perheensä, mutta myös heidän perheensä. Meidän perheemme oli täysin poistunut. Olimme rauhoittaneet. Oletko itsellesi itsellesi, ettei olisi huomannut mitään viiden vuoden aikana, kun hän oli tekemäsi sinun omaa yllätys- ja insomniakäytöstäsi? Hän oli poistunut viinasi tai ruokasi yöllä.

Why were you angry with yourself? Because I didn't realize anything. I saw nothing. I think it was right at the beginning, when he started drugging me in fact. I didn't remember what I'd done the day before, so I said to him, you're not drugging me by any chance. And when I saw him break down in tears, I immediately thought there might be something wrong, because I have an excellent memory.

There I couldn't remember at all what I'd done the day before. You made the remarkable decision to let the world know who you are, to waive your legal right to anonymity, which meant the trial of all these men would be opened up to the public and the media, and everyone would know who you were. Why did you choose to do that?

When I decided against a closed hearing, I wanted the shame to shift to the other side. I'd carried that shame for more than four years. That self-inflicted pain, I felt, meant victims were being punished twice, and I thought that if I was able to overcome it, all victims could do it too. Shame must be carried by the accused, not the victims.

Monsieur Pellico was given the maximum jail sentence for what he did to you, 20 years in jail. Will you ever see him again?

I haven't had the opportunity to go and see him, and I hope to do so. That's also part of my way of rebuilding myself. So I think I need to go and see him to get answers. There has been an outpouring of support for you from people around the world, particularly women, who began to wait for you each day at the court and formed a guard of honour as you walked into the building, and then...

kappaleita, kun jäit alkaen.

You wrote that the crowd saved you. Yes, you go through hell in a courtroom. You're really humiliated. Nothing has changed much, in fact. Victims are still made to feel like the guilty party. So yes, when I came out, the applause gave me enormous strength. And seeing my name plastered on the walls of Avignon, this name as a banner, my story as an example, it gave me a lot of strength.

Alone it would have been very difficult, I think. Madame Pellico, if I may, I feel like you are one of the strongest women I have ever met.

Where does that strength come from? You say you have found love again.

Some people may be surprised by that. I've always been focused on other people, on the future. I didn't think at all about falling in love or even wanting to. But life put a man in my path who has the same values, the same principles as me and who's also been through many ordeals in his life. We had this stroke of luck. We fell in love like teenagers when neither of us was expecting it. So you see, life always holds beautiful surprises.

Puhumme koko maailman kaupungista, jotka tulevat Teheran kaupungiin. Tämä on todella iloinen. Se on kiva nähdä, mutta se on myös haastavaa, koska se tarkoittaa kasvavaa kestävää ja kasvavaa kestävää ihmisten elämästä. Tämä on jotain shopperista. Kestävät ovat niin isoja.

Oletko toivottava, että Presidentin Trumpin ja Iranin välillä tulee ratkaisu? Luulen, että se tulee. Se tulee? Kyllä. Luulen, että se tulee, koska tulevaisuus on todella vaarallista. Eikä kukaan tiedä, jos Yhdysvaltain alkaa vahvistaa Irania. Se tulee olemaan todella huonoja seurauksia. Mitä luulet, että voisi tapahtua täällä?