J.D. Vance

Yes.

Which, thank God for that.

No, I mean, the president, he is just, if Washington is an insincere place, I think you said that and said it well, he is like the polar opposite.

He just says what's on his mind.

He doesn't care how anybody's going to react to it.

What you see is what you get.

And people always ask, well, what is he like in private?

He is in private exactly like he is when he's in front of a camera.

And I think that you're right.

There are some members of the press who kind of like him for it and some members of the press who don't.

And I think for most members of the press, it's a little bit of both.

They admire the game, even if for some political reason they just can't admit that they actually like him, but most of them actually do.

They hate themselves for laughing.

Exactly, exactly.

I mean, there was a moment in the Oval Office, I wasn't even in there, but I was in the West Wing and somebody sent me where he was talking to Caitlin Collins, who's the CNN anchor.

And I have a decent relationship with Caitlin Collins, which is unusual given that she's from CNN.

But the president, she's asking a question.

The president says, why don't you ever smile?

Yeah.

And it's actually like so perceptive.