J. Kyle Mann

We don't have to treat it as if this is the longest standing public policy in existence.

You can fix this stuff.

I just don't think that in particular, NBA team governors feel that way or think that way.

And it leads to a lot of your frustration, Justin.

I'm sure a lot of frustration for a lot of people out there with the state of the NBA product.

But I wish I could say I had any confidence whatsoever it would change.

I just, I want to see something different.

I would love something different.

I think for me, this is clearly an issue.

It's been a problem for a long time.

I would love to be able to summon the enthusiasm and fight that you still have in these trenches, JV.

I've been worn down by the years and years and years of this.

And I just see other stuff going on that I'm like, that feels much worse to me.

Giannis Antetokounmpo having a sponsorship with Kalshi, however you pronounce that company.

is a fucking disgrace.

Yes.

Embarrassing to the league, actively disruptive to any sense of fair competition within it.

I feel very comfortable with that fact.

But yeah, it's like, look, betting is obviously entrenched within the NBA.

It's entrenched within our podcast and the coverage of the NBA across the board.