The Ringer NBA Show
The NBA’s Tanking Problem Hits Rock Bottom and More Trade Deadline Ripple Effects | Group Chat
But ultimately, if you're Detroit, I get not swinging too hard under the circumstances.
The Ringer NBA Show
The NBA’s Tanking Problem Hits Rock Bottom and More Trade Deadline Ripple Effects | Group Chat
I would even advocate for them welcoming the risk a little bit more.
The Ringer NBA Show
The NBA’s Tanking Problem Hits Rock Bottom and More Trade Deadline Ripple Effects | Group Chat
But if you're already this good and you're this young, sometimes you just talk yourself into a more conservative outcome.
The Ringer NBA Show
The NBA’s Tanking Problem Hits Rock Bottom and More Trade Deadline Ripple Effects | Group Chat
I don't agree with it.
The Ringer NBA Show
The NBA’s Tanking Problem Hits Rock Bottom and More Trade Deadline Ripple Effects | Group Chat
I'm with you that I think that ultimately there are so many teams kind of like in it in the East, even though none of them is individually like exceptional right now.
The Ringer NBA Show
The NBA’s Tanking Problem Hits Rock Bottom and More Trade Deadline Ripple Effects | Group Chat
Just like the sheer volume of teams that like could talk their way into being in a conference final at this point would make me a little bit nervous.
The Ringer NBA Show
The NBA’s Tanking Problem Hits Rock Bottom and More Trade Deadline Ripple Effects | Group Chat
But Detroit is very good.
The Ringer NBA Show
The NBA’s Tanking Problem Hits Rock Bottom and More Trade Deadline Ripple Effects | Group Chat
Maybe they'll make us look foolish and just kind of take care of everybody.
The Ringer NBA Show
The NBA’s Tanking Problem Hits Rock Bottom and More Trade Deadline Ripple Effects | Group Chat
I think there are so many James Harden criticisms that are 100% valid and well-earned and well-deserved on his part.
The Ringer NBA Show
The NBA’s Tanking Problem Hits Rock Bottom and More Trade Deadline Ripple Effects | Group Chat
In particular, the playoff track record is checkered at best.
The Ringer NBA Show
The NBA’s Tanking Problem Hits Rock Bottom and More Trade Deadline Ripple Effects | Group Chat
Who he has been, especially defensively, take your shots, deserving of that criticism.
The Ringer NBA Show
The NBA’s Tanking Problem Hits Rock Bottom and More Trade Deadline Ripple Effects | Group Chat
Setting up other ISO scores, like, he's always been good at that.
The Ringer NBA Show
The NBA’s Tanking Problem Hits Rock Bottom and More Trade Deadline Ripple Effects | Group Chat
And I don't, like, we just pretend as if the James Harden nets weren't good.
The Ringer NBA Show
The NBA’s Tanking Problem Hits Rock Bottom and More Trade Deadline Ripple Effects | Group Chat
And if, like, he didn't make Kevin Durant's life easier and he, for the brief time that they played together, didn't make Kyrie Irving's life easier, like, he was more than willing to just play playmaker with that group.
The Ringer NBA Show
The NBA’s Tanking Problem Hits Rock Bottom and More Trade Deadline Ripple Effects | Group Chat
And this is a different build where, yeah, it's not Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving, but to see Donovan Mitchell have the kind of performance he did in James Harden's debut, I think is huge.
The Ringer NBA Show
The NBA’s Tanking Problem Hits Rock Bottom and More Trade Deadline Ripple Effects | Group Chat
Like the rolling big stuff we know is going to be there.
The Ringer NBA Show
The NBA’s Tanking Problem Hits Rock Bottom and More Trade Deadline Ripple Effects | Group Chat
Making Evan Mobley's life incrementally better, we all expected.
The Ringer NBA Show
The NBA’s Tanking Problem Hits Rock Bottom and More Trade Deadline Ripple Effects | Group Chat
But this is also a thing he can do.
The Ringer NBA Show
The NBA’s Tanking Problem Hits Rock Bottom and More Trade Deadline Ripple Effects | Group Chat
Like he's just a good passer and a good reader of offense.
The Ringer NBA Show
The NBA’s Tanking Problem Hits Rock Bottom and More Trade Deadline Ripple Effects | Group Chat
And that's going to include setting up Donovan Mitchell for some of the easiest looks he's frankly ever gotten as a pro.