J. Kyle Mann

No one can stop us.

That was very hurtful to us.

Where do you want to start with this?

First of all, let me ask you this.

Do you want to try to build a Mount Rushmore together?

Or do you think we're capable of that?

Or do you just want to have our own little separate mountains?

What do you think is the band or the artist in terms of indie rock music of the aughts?

Which we should clarify.

We're thinking like 2000 to 2009 primarily, that window of time.

If you want to include 2010 and like blur the line, that's cool with me too.

But who do you think we're most likely to agree on?

You don't want to be on my team.

Yeah.

And, and we have the facts too.

Like, I mean, that's an era where those are banger albums.

Uh,

But we stumbled into the larger indie rock debate of is what makes indie rock a sound or a feeling, or is it literally being on an independent label or putting things out yourself?

I don't really know how to suss all that out, to be honest with you.

There's a philosophy behind it that I will defer to the actual music experts to parse.