Jaap Haartsen

And that's what Bluetooth does as well.

Right.

And the logo, yeah, it actually consists of two parts, and it comes from the rune alphabet.

One part is really a bee, bee from Bluetooth, but actually his first name is Harald.

And Harald in the rune alphabet is written as a pole with an X.

So if you have a pole and an X and you merge that with the B, then you get the logo which you see today.

No, no, no.

I was a happy engineer just working with new scientific challenges.

But then at a certain moment in 2006, I read an article and it said, okay, there are 1 billion Bluetooth devices shipped.

And then I thought, oh, wait a minute, this is all very serious.

This will not go away anymore.

And I think there are like six or seven billion devices every year shipped now.

But also, some years ago, I bought a sauna.

And the sauna had Bluetooth inside, so I can listen to podcasts while in the sauna.

Yeah, that's amazing.

I never have imagined that.