Jack Carr

Well, I think that that jury's out right now.

So after Venezuela, of course, they can say, oh, wow, look, the same types of, let's say, early warning systems that we have are the same ones that did nothing to stop the Americans going into Venezuela in January.

Okay, we need to reevaluate our defense systems here because we have the exact same ones made by Russia, made by China, perhaps.

But that was a message right there.

And

And if we had stopped right there, I think we were on some pretty secure footing when it comes to what our capabilities are as a military.

And then we try a similar thing with Iran.

And it hasn't quite worked out, I don't think, the way that the administration anticipated based off our performance in Venezuela.

It's a different part of the world.

It is a puzzle.

Right, right.

And when it comes to negotiations, when we think about that, we make this mistake in the United States if you're sitting across the table from another American doing that mirror image and thinking that that person across the table from you in this negotiation has the same values as you do, has the same concerns as you do.

You amplify that by 10, 20, 100 times when you sit across the table from someone with a tradition of having grown up in Iran.

That is a very different person or people to be negotiating with.

And you cannot certainly can't if you can't work in the United States.

American citizen, it's certainly not going to work across the table from somebody from Iran.

So we tend to do that.

We tend to make that mistake of mirror imaging what's important to us and putting that on the other person that we're talking to.

So maybe we have gotten down to a level of leadership that is more receptive to negotiation, but I'm not sure.

I was kidding.