Jack Carr

And I said, it's time to change the Department of Defense back to the Department of War.

And I used the Afghanistan withdrawal as that example and put that in two articles.

I think they both went on town hall, I believe.

But I talked about it.

And I'd never heard anybody mention that before.

Is that what it used to be?

It used to be the Department of War?

Department of War up to the end of World War II.

And then it changed.

And then it was official in 1947 with the reorganization of the military and our intelligence apparatus.

So 1947 onward became the Department of Defense.

Yeah, I certainly talk about it in here as a great conversation.

One of my favorite chapters is these two characters, Tom Reese and his buddy Quinn.

So one special forces guy, one SEAL, and they're having this conversation on China Beach.

And it was great to write those chapters and do all this research into China Beach and Da Nang and what kind of surfboards they were using, how they were shaped, like all this stuff just to bring you back to that to that time frame.

But that's what they're talking about.

Yeah, 1968, his dad.

And people find out where the tomahawk came from, where the watch came from, where honey and the coffee came from.

So all these little things are kind of woven in there as well.

But exactly what you just talked about is a conversation in this book in 1968.