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Jack Crivici-Kramer

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The Best One Yet
🤏 “Zuck’s Tiny Taxes” — What Billionaires pay. New Balance’s surge. Ring’s puppy problem. +Jamie Dimon’s bar

You see, every two weeks, Zuck gets a paycheck over at Meta for three cents.

The Best One Yet
🤏 “Zuck’s Tiny Taxes” — What Billionaires pay. New Balance’s surge. Ring’s puppy problem. +Jamie Dimon’s bar

That's it.

The Best One Yet
🤏 “Zuck’s Tiny Taxes” — What Billionaires pay. New Balance’s surge. Ring’s puppy problem. +Jamie Dimon’s bar

After taxes, it's probably one cent.

The Best One Yet
🤏 “Zuck’s Tiny Taxes” — What Billionaires pay. New Balance’s surge. Ring’s puppy problem. +Jamie Dimon’s bar

Yeah, you know how it goes.

The Best One Yet
🤏 “Zuck’s Tiny Taxes” — What Billionaires pay. New Balance’s surge. Ring’s puppy problem. +Jamie Dimon’s bar

Now, Elon actually takes a $0 salary from Tesla to be their CEO.

The Best One Yet
🤏 “Zuck’s Tiny Taxes” — What Billionaires pay. New Balance’s surge. Ring’s puppy problem. +Jamie Dimon’s bar

So Elon is paying $0 in income taxes right now.

The Best One Yet
🤏 “Zuck’s Tiny Taxes” — What Billionaires pay. New Balance’s surge. Ring’s puppy problem. +Jamie Dimon’s bar

Now, for both, you might think initially, wow, what a great guy.

The Best One Yet
🤏 “Zuck’s Tiny Taxes” — What Billionaires pay. New Balance’s surge. Ring’s puppy problem. +Jamie Dimon’s bar

They're already rich, so they're working for free.

The Best One Yet
🤏 “Zuck’s Tiny Taxes” — What Billionaires pay. New Balance’s surge. Ring’s puppy problem. +Jamie Dimon’s bar

Not too shabby, Zuck just doing his thing, nice guy.

The Best One Yet
🤏 “Zuck’s Tiny Taxes” — What Billionaires pay. New Balance’s surge. Ring’s puppy problem. +Jamie Dimon’s bar

But the reality, this isn't philanthropy, this is strategy.

The Best One Yet
🤏 “Zuck’s Tiny Taxes” — What Billionaires pay. New Balance’s surge. Ring’s puppy problem. +Jamie Dimon’s bar

Exactly, because these particular billionaires derive their wealth from stock and stock bonuses for tax reasons.

The Best One Yet
🤏 “Zuck’s Tiny Taxes” — What Billionaires pay. New Balance’s surge. Ring’s puppy problem. +Jamie Dimon’s bar

That's why the billionaire class can get $10 billion richer in one year and only pay tax if they sell stock, which billionaires have learned not to do.

The Best One Yet
🤏 “Zuck’s Tiny Taxes” — What Billionaires pay. New Balance’s surge. Ring’s puppy problem. +Jamie Dimon’s bar

Jack, why don't you whip out the whiteboard here?

The Best One Yet
🤏 “Zuck’s Tiny Taxes” — What Billionaires pay. New Balance’s surge. Ring’s puppy problem. +Jamie Dimon’s bar

How exactly does this strategy break down?

The Best One Yet
🤏 “Zuck’s Tiny Taxes” — What Billionaires pay. New Balance’s surge. Ring’s puppy problem. +Jamie Dimon’s bar

When a billionaire needs cash to buy like a fifth home, they don't sell the stock that they own.

The Best One Yet
🤏 “Zuck’s Tiny Taxes” — What Billionaires pay. New Balance’s surge. Ring’s puppy problem. +Jamie Dimon’s bar

Instead, they borrow cash using their stock as collateral.

The Best One Yet
🤏 “Zuck’s Tiny Taxes” — What Billionaires pay. New Balance’s surge. Ring’s puppy problem. +Jamie Dimon’s bar

And here's the key.

The Best One Yet
🤏 “Zuck’s Tiny Taxes” — What Billionaires pay. New Balance’s surge. Ring’s puppy problem. +Jamie Dimon’s bar

The interest that they owe on that loan, it is way less than the capital gains taxes they would have paid if they'd sold the stock.

The Best One Yet
🤏 “Zuck’s Tiny Taxes” — What Billionaires pay. New Balance’s surge. Ring’s puppy problem. +Jamie Dimon’s bar

And here's what their accountant tells them.

The Best One Yet
🤏 “Zuck’s Tiny Taxes” — What Billionaires pay. New Balance’s surge. Ring’s puppy problem. +Jamie Dimon’s bar

Just keep doing this until you die.