Jack Laurence

I've been lucky.

Let me call it quits.

So Jim is arrested, convicted and sentenced to just over five years in prison, although he says at the time it really didn't bother him.

In fact, it didn't even make him quit his day job.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's the highest incarceration rate in the entire world.

You're continuing your criminal enterprise from inside prison.

So, of course, in one minute remaining, we interview men and women incarcerated in the United States and I hear all sorts of horror stories of how the inmates are treated and how they spend such a large portion of their lives inside, locked up in small cells.

So I was keen to hear from Jim just how prisons in Denmark compare.

So were you in what they would classify as a maximum security prison or were you just in a general prison?

Yeah, well, I mean, the number of the men and women I speak to within America, it's very similar.

As soon as you get charged, you go into what they call jail.

Some of them spend like two, a guy I spoke to spent two and a half years in there and they say that the jails are worse than when you get into prison because you get more freedom when you get to prison than you do in the jail.

It absolutely makes no sense.

The amount of people who said, I had to go to prison to become a real criminal.

It's a school for criminals.

That's all it is, really.

There's no reform.

There's no, you know.

So Jim was serving his time and towards the end of that sentence, he would be allowed to spend weekends back home.