Jack Laurence

You can do the maths on that one.

So yeah, that was the best deal I ever did with someone was taking his phone bill on, that's for sure.

So yeah, so I left Wavecrest in 2017 and I left.

From Wavecrest, Chris's life in the world of crypto really begins as he leaves the company in 2017 to set up his own business looking at regulation and compliance in this world.

which he says, in his own words, was a vastly unsuccessful business.

Because essentially, back then, the world of crypto was the Wild West, and not many people were overly interested in, shall we say, being overtly transparent about their dealings within it.

From there, Chris does more work in the space and eventually would take a meeting with a man called Roger Ver, referred to by many as Bitcoin Jesus, as he's known to be one of the first ever investors in Bitcoin.

Roger had a company called Bitcoin.com and invited Chris to join as head of business development.

Now, I know what you must be thinking.

Okay, this is all very interesting, but what about Chris's own crypto fortune?

Are you talking to one of those crypto millionaires?

Absolutely not.

So in 2018, I think at one point, I won't tell you how much I was worth on paper, but it was a significant amount of money.

But I was very young.

I didn't really understand.

And I remember meeting a friend of mine I went to school with.

Her dad's quite a successful entrepreneur in the UK.

And I used to have lunch with him.

And I had lunch with him one time.

And he said, Chris, this is a bubble.