Jack Lawrence

Let's not worry about that.

Just move on.

The amount of cases that I talk about and I talk to people and they tell me, well, you know, it's like another guy I'm talking to, like some shell casings were found in his backyard but they were just picked up in the... The detective apparently picked them up in his hand and put them in his pocket and that became evidence, like key evidence in this murder.

And I'm like going, how is no one going, hold on a second, where's the chain of custody for this evidence?

Why are you just picking up this evidence with your hand?

And no one questions it.

And you're pulling your hair out going, why is nobody questioning this right now?

Am I insane?

And it's like with your story.

Why is no one questioning the fact that this guy's come out and lied, the fact that this truck was cleaned?

So at least we have two judges that have started questioning and asking why and asking for explanations.

Yeah, exactly, because there's no way of explaining why all this... A simple question is, like, you said to trust him, this was one of your key witnesses, you said to trust him, that's what started this whole thing in the first place, and now you're saying not to trust him.

So, okay, so why?

And the only way, the only explanation for that is because, well, he's changed his opinion and it doesn't fit our case, so we're telling you now just not to listen to him because it works against us.

That's the answer that he should be giving.

They want a safe face.

And I mean, I had this very discussion with, I spoke with the gentleman, what's his name?

I completely forgot a blank to his name now, but he came and visited you in prison.

He was part of the wrong man show.

Ira Todd.