Jack Lawrence

Here's Junior.

Yeah.

I mean, isolation is one of the worst things that you can do to a person.

Something mundane, yeah, yeah.

That wouldn't be an easy process to extract yourself from the gang, as I would imagine.

So you tell the gang members that you don't want to be part of this gang anymore and they essentially say, okay, fine.

You said you make yourself a target.

How do you avoid getting attacked?

So it's almost, they almost see it as a sign of disrespect.

Prison has now become even more dangerous for Junior.

Not only does he have to worry about rival gang members, but also people he once considered friends, and in a way, family.

Until he would get handed a lifeline.

When you left the gang and you said, you know, I'm out, and then they were moving you to another prison, were you kept sort of in solitary until you left?

were you quite happy to be staying in the hole while you waited for your transfer?

And that wraps up the first instalment of part six of my chat with Evaristo Salas Jr.

In part two of this episode, Jr.

and I will discuss his eventual release and the inevitable struggles of the real world.

While he's grown up inside prison, the world outside has continued to evolve and change.

I feel like every time I talk to someone, I'm like, you know, you feel like you've heard it all and then you hear more stories and it's just like shocking.

Next time on One Minute Remaining.