Jack Mesley

But everything else going on around it is, is a real, is a real thrill as well.

You know, I think it's a broader view of who we're appealing to.

You know, we know there are, you know, code heads, as you guys like to call them, that listen to this pod and love chatting about lightning quick ball and all of that.

But there are people that just want a great night out or a great afternoon out, right?

They want to be entertained.

They want to do something with their friends on a weekend.

And, you know, we really want to take that broader sort of lens to it because, you know, there are so many people that we can engage with and get them into a stadium.

and entertain them.

You know, hopefully that brings them into rugby and, and hopefully, you know, after, after coming to, you know, maybe three or four home games that we get them in and we get them loving talking about, you know, loving talking about possession and territory and all, all the great things that go in the background of our game.

Colin Mansfield, CEO of Crusaders is increasingly frustrated by this.

People go, oh, you should have stuff for the kids.

And he's like, oh, we've had stuff for the kids for years.

I think there is a bit of bright and shiny and new.

people like talking about the bright and shiny and new and you know um we've obviously been around for for 30 years in new zealand uh we're the bigger code uh and and you know therefore we kind of were encumbered with that um but we do have to do a better job of promoting it uh we're certainly trying to get out and do a better job of that um you know i think rugby probably has not promoted itself well enough

Um, and you know, hopefully you're seeing our CEOs of all five clubs.

Hopefully you're sick.

Uh, your fans are sick of hearing from me about what's going on in super rugby.

Cause we're certainly trying to, trying to do a better job of that.

And, and, you know, there's more room, there's more room to come.

You know, w we need to continue to get on the front foot and grow visibility.