Jack Recider

But if you could tolerate it, building calluses on your eyes and start talking with people through the noise, you might be welcomed deeper into the pockets of anonymous.

But if you could tolerate it, building calluses on your eyes and start talking with people through the noise, you might be welcomed deeper into the pockets of anonymous.

This made the edges of anonymous even more fuzzy. New groups were forming out of it, and they had their own ideas and agendas. And they'd look back at the anonymous chat rooms and think, those cats are cringe. We don't want to be affiliated with that stupid stuff. We're our own group. And IRC hacking groups would come out of anonymous. Some were loosely affiliated.

This made the edges of anonymous even more fuzzy. New groups were forming out of it, and they had their own ideas and agendas. And they'd look back at the anonymous chat rooms and think, those cats are cringe. We don't want to be affiliated with that stupid stuff. We're our own group. And IRC hacking groups would come out of anonymous. Some were loosely affiliated.

Some were even anti-anonymous themselves. There was infighting too, doxing people from other anonymous groups and other hacking groups. It was a real mess. Some other groups that were springing up in that time coming out of Anonymous were like LulzSec, Team Poison, UGG Nazi, HTTP. And some people in these groups were getting arrested and then working with the feds to catch other hackers.

Some were even anti-anonymous themselves. There was infighting too, doxing people from other anonymous groups and other hacking groups. It was a real mess. Some other groups that were springing up in that time coming out of Anonymous were like LulzSec, Team Poison, UGG Nazi, HTTP. And some people in these groups were getting arrested and then working with the feds to catch other hackers.

Things weren't safe. You always had to be looking over your shoulders in these chat rooms. You just didn't know who to trust in there.

Things weren't safe. You always had to be looking over your shoulders in these chat rooms. You just didn't know who to trust in there.

Yeah, in fact, I do know who Trick was very well. I did a whole episode about him called Team Poison. That's episode 109. But the scene was so hard to navigate to know who to trust. It almost became a thing that if you were hacking into stuff, breaking laws, then you were trusted. You must not be a fed if you're able to break the law. Everyone else keeps them at arm's length.

Yeah, in fact, I do know who Trick was very well. I did a whole episode about him called Team Poison. That's episode 109. But the scene was so hard to navigate to know who to trust. It almost became a thing that if you were hacking into stuff, breaking laws, then you were trusted. You must not be a fed if you're able to break the law. Everyone else keeps them at arm's length.

Now the thing is, at this little time and place in the world, hacks were happening everywhere you looked. Some from anonymous, some from anonymous adjacent, some from crews that were anti-anonymous. But what was their motivation? Some were politically motivated. Some wanted to get revenge. Some wanted to amplify a cause or an idea.

Now the thing is, at this little time and place in the world, hacks were happening everywhere you looked. Some from anonymous, some from anonymous adjacent, some from crews that were anti-anonymous. But what was their motivation? Some were politically motivated. Some wanted to get revenge. Some wanted to amplify a cause or an idea.

And if you deface a big website and write with big letters on the front page something about your cause, it brings more awareness to it. Default was hacking into stuff too. But what was his motivation?

And if you deface a big website and write with big letters on the front page something about your cause, it brings more awareness to it. Default was hacking into stuff too. But what was his motivation?

Okay, I see. He's interested in learning, and his crime is curiosity. It reminds me of that scene from the movie Hackers, which came out in 1995. Listen. This is our world now.

Okay, I see. He's interested in learning, and his crime is curiosity. It reminds me of that scene from the movie Hackers, which came out in 1995. Listen. This is our world now.

You may stop me, but you can't stop us all. Now, even though that's a scene from the 90s movie Hackers, that manifesto was actually written in 1986, a full 20 years before Anonymous would start making a name for itself. Yet it feels like that's absolutely something Anonymous would say.

You may stop me, but you can't stop us all. Now, even though that's a scene from the 90s movie Hackers, that manifesto was actually written in 1986, a full 20 years before Anonymous would start making a name for itself. Yet it feels like that's absolutely something Anonymous would say.

Okay, so this was a big deal. Default and the crew he was in wanted to take out Detroit's water payment system. Someone in the channel suggested they hit the site with Loic, the low orbit ion cannon. And this is a basic tool, you just point and shoot it, but it floods the target IP with loads of traffic, overwhelming it, so it can't handle legitimate customers.

Okay, so this was a big deal. Default and the crew he was in wanted to take out Detroit's water payment system. Someone in the channel suggested they hit the site with Loic, the low orbit ion cannon. And this is a basic tool, you just point and shoot it, but it floods the target IP with loads of traffic, overwhelming it, so it can't handle legitimate customers.