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Jack Recider

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Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

Tarun was confused. The whole story? What's the whole story? Something very strange was going on here and even his sister won't tell him what's going on. But okay, Tarun ends the call with his sister.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

Tarun was confused. The whole story? What's the whole story? Something very strange was going on here and even his sister won't tell him what's going on. But okay, Tarun ends the call with his sister.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

Hmm, wow, what even is the morally right thing to do here? On one hand, his cousin is the one who made the mistake, and Tarun did nothing wrong. But on the other hand, Tarun's cousin came to his rescue. even though he didn't actually need help and sent money to a scammer and not him. But to just call someone out of the blue like that, and they immediately send you $1,700?

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

Hmm, wow, what even is the morally right thing to do here? On one hand, his cousin is the one who made the mistake, and Tarun did nothing wrong. But on the other hand, Tarun's cousin came to his rescue. even though he didn't actually need help and sent money to a scammer and not him. But to just call someone out of the blue like that, and they immediately send you $1,700?

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

That's a great cousin to have. I think Tarun did a stand-up move by sending his cousin the money he lost. And how this scam works seems kind of familiar to me, actually. I've always been warning people about scammers targeting elderly people to try to tell them their grandchild or something is in trouble. and needs help to get out of a mess.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

That's a great cousin to have. I think Tarun did a stand-up move by sending his cousin the money he lost. And how this scam works seems kind of familiar to me, actually. I've always been warning people about scammers targeting elderly people to try to tell them their grandchild or something is in trouble. and needs help to get out of a mess.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

Because some elderly people think that family is above everything and they'll just immediately try to help their family without thinking about it or validating it. So like if a scammer knows someone is traveling abroad, they could call back home to the grandparent and say, your son has been arrested here and needs money to bail them out of jail.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

Because some elderly people think that family is above everything and they'll just immediately try to help their family without thinking about it or validating it. So like if a scammer knows someone is traveling abroad, they could call back home to the grandparent and say, your son has been arrested here and needs money to bail them out of jail.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

And the grandparent might just pay right away because it's very difficult to, like, work through time zones and phones and stuff. And so the grandparent doesn't want to drop the call since it may be really hard to get that person back who's in another country. Calling long distance and getting a person who can speak their language is sometimes pretty tricky.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

And the grandparent might just pay right away because it's very difficult to, like, work through time zones and phones and stuff. And so the grandparent doesn't want to drop the call since it may be really hard to get that person back who's in another country. Calling long distance and getting a person who can speak their language is sometimes pretty tricky.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

The other thing I'm starting to see arise in is AI scammers. This is where they get like some clips of audio from the person that they're trying to imitate. And then they get AI to clone that voice so that AI can just talk like that person for them. And then this is when they call the victim and their voice sounds just like their real cousin or brother or whatever.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

The other thing I'm starting to see arise in is AI scammers. This is where they get like some clips of audio from the person that they're trying to imitate. And then they get AI to clone that voice so that AI can just talk like that person for them. And then this is when they call the victim and their voice sounds just like their real cousin or brother or whatever.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

Tarun and his family did not know that these kind of scams were going around, and they paid a price for it. But once it happened, they started seeing how other families are getting hit with these kind of scams too, and noticing post after post on social media.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

Tarun and his family did not know that these kind of scams were going around, and they paid a price for it. But once it happened, they started seeing how other families are getting hit with these kind of scams too, and noticing post after post on social media.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

Now, what was surprising to me when I first heard about Tarun's story is that I think everyone's heard about these Indian scammers trying to call you and act like they're Microsoft tech support so you can send them some money or something. But I've not heard of Indian scammers scamming other people from India. But apparently there's a reason for this.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

Now, what was surprising to me when I first heard about Tarun's story is that I think everyone's heard about these Indian scammers trying to call you and act like they're Microsoft tech support so you can send them some money or something. But I've not heard of Indian scammers scamming other people from India. But apparently there's a reason for this.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

And it's also really tricky when scammers say, oh, don't tell mom or dad. You know how they are. They'll have a heart attack, which is such a powerful line, especially if the target's dad did have a heart attack, you know? It's a great reason not to tell them. But these scammers are even more tricky than that.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

And it's also really tricky when scammers say, oh, don't tell mom or dad. You know how they are. They'll have a heart attack, which is such a powerful line, especially if the target's dad did have a heart attack, you know? It's a great reason not to tell them. But these scammers are even more tricky than that.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

And here's another red flag. When a scammer tries to isolate you and get you to not tell anyone else, that should be like a warning sign. Like, wait a minute, why is this a secret? I think I do need to bring this up with someone else in my family. But it's crazy that just a little bit of small talk is how you can get your target to do this.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

And here's another red flag. When a scammer tries to isolate you and get you to not tell anyone else, that should be like a warning sign. Like, wait a minute, why is this a secret? I think I do need to bring this up with someone else in my family. But it's crazy that just a little bit of small talk is how you can get your target to do this.