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Jack Recider

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Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

Just enough information to impersonate you on a basic level. And of course, phone numbers. I know there are people in my family that may do it. One of my cousins is currently homeless. And last we spoke, we got into a fight. Who knows what that kid's out there doing for cash right now? I don't know.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

I just think that this is wild, that scammers are getting caught in the act, but then offering to pay you for information on any targets that you can give them, offering 25% of the cut even. And you know, now that I think of it, that's probably a scam too. If you give them information, you are probably never going to see your cut of the money.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

I just think that this is wild, that scammers are getting caught in the act, but then offering to pay you for information on any targets that you can give them, offering 25% of the cut even. And you know, now that I think of it, that's probably a scam too. If you give them information, you are probably never going to see your cut of the money.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

I mean, did your cousin open a police report or anything?

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

I mean, did your cousin open a police report or anything?

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

So people in Punjab who are scammed for more than $10,000 can submit an FIR. And that's the first incident report, which is the first thing you should do to register an issue with the police in India. But then a lot of times, nothing happens of it. I guess this is why it's rising in popularity, because it's so easy to get away with.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

So people in Punjab who are scammed for more than $10,000 can submit an FIR. And that's the first incident report, which is the first thing you should do to register an issue with the police in India. But then a lot of times, nothing happens of it. I guess this is why it's rising in popularity, because it's so easy to get away with.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

I don't even understand the border situation enough down there to know what region has jurisdiction over each other, or if anything can be done about this. I mean, suppose they do track this to be someone from Pakistan. Can the Indian police arrest someone in Pakistan? Would the Pakistani police do something with that information? I have no idea.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

I don't even understand the border situation enough down there to know what region has jurisdiction over each other, or if anything can be done about this. I mean, suppose they do track this to be someone from Pakistan. Can the Indian police arrest someone in Pakistan? Would the Pakistani police do something with that information? I have no idea.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

But I still think if you're a victim of a scam and lose money, it's a good step to issue a police report if you can. There have been some cases where scammers were caught, and you may be the person with the information that can help catch them. I don't know the stats. I imagine it's a slim chance that your report will do anything, but I still think having that hope can sometimes keep you going.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

But I still think if you're a victim of a scam and lose money, it's a good step to issue a police report if you can. There have been some cases where scammers were caught, and you may be the person with the information that can help catch them. I don't know the stats. I imagine it's a slim chance that your report will do anything, but I still think having that hope can sometimes keep you going.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

Once Tarun got privy that this kind of scam is going out there in the wild, he became a target of this scam himself.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

Once Tarun got privy that this kind of scam is going out there in the wild, he became a target of this scam himself.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

I think this is a brilliant way to combat this kind of scam, to do a verification check of some kind. You could ask them to confirm something that only they knew. Like, you could trick them and say something like, oh, do you remember that one summer we went to the lake together? That was fun, wasn't it? And when they say, yeah, yeah, I do. But you never went to the lake with that person.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

I think this is a brilliant way to combat this kind of scam, to do a verification check of some kind. You could ask them to confirm something that only they knew. Like, you could trick them and say something like, oh, do you remember that one summer we went to the lake together? That was fun, wasn't it? And when they say, yeah, yeah, I do. But you never went to the lake with that person.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

Now you know they're lying. I know as my dad, we have some code words that if one of us is in trouble, we have to say the code word to prove it's you. And I've told him if he ever gets kidnapped and someone calls me to pay the ransom, my immediate reaction is to not believe them unless I hear the code word. So you got to tell your kidnappers the code word if you want me to send you money.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

Now you know they're lying. I know as my dad, we have some code words that if one of us is in trouble, we have to say the code word to prove it's you. And I've told him if he ever gets kidnapped and someone calls me to pay the ransom, my immediate reaction is to not believe them unless I hear the code word. So you got to tell your kidnappers the code word if you want me to send you money.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

Otherwise, I'm just hanging up the phone. And he's cool with that. But stories like this really do bring my focus back to looking after our digital privacy online. And someone who knows a lot about digital privacy is Naomi.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

Otherwise, I'm just hanging up the phone. And he's cool with that. But stories like this really do bring my focus back to looking after our digital privacy online. And someone who knows a lot about digital privacy is Naomi.

Darknet Diaries
138: The Mimics of Punjab

In this story, the scammer seems to know quite a lot of information about the victim that they're targeting, right? They know this person's kids' names, where they live, what cousins they have they know from abroad, and this sort of thing. Do you have any idea where a scammer might be getting this kind of information from?