Jack Recider
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Yeah, why not? Now, you have the tag here, Mob Man, here in our call. I do. Is that your nickname? Yes. When did you start using that?
Yeah, why not? Now, you have the tag here, Mob Man, here in our call. I do. Is that your nickname? Yes. When did you start using that?
It's a trip, you know, to get here because for the last six years, I've known Mob Man to be a different guy. I'm aware. And now I feel like I've met a new Mob Man. So let's go back to the 90s. What was your early experience with just cybersecurity?
It's a trip, you know, to get here because for the last six years, I've known Mob Man to be a different guy. I'm aware. And now I feel like I've met a new Mob Man. So let's go back to the 90s. What was your early experience with just cybersecurity?
That was it. That's how everything started. And so, the story goes, Sub-7 was born.
That was it. That's how everything started. And so, the story goes, Sub-7 was born.
If you created this as like a coding challenge, did you ever feel bad when people used it for malicious purposes?
If you created this as like a coding challenge, did you ever feel bad when people used it for malicious purposes?
Hmm. The thing is, as this tool began getting popular, it started to be used more and more in criminal activity, using it to take over someone's computer. You can see exactly what they're doing on it. Or you could steal their files or session cookies or wipe their computer and delete everything.
Hmm. The thing is, as this tool began getting popular, it started to be used more and more in criminal activity, using it to take over someone's computer. You can see exactly what they're doing on it. Or you could steal their files or session cookies or wipe their computer and delete everything.
The problem is, creators of malware have sometimes been arrested just for creating it, not even doing anything bad with it. Because those creators were knowingly creating tools or weapons for criminals to do crimes with. Sub-7's official reason for existence was to prank people. It was for jokes and stuff.
The problem is, creators of malware have sometimes been arrested just for creating it, not even doing anything bad with it. Because those creators were knowingly creating tools or weapons for criminals to do crimes with. Sub-7's official reason for existence was to prank people. It was for jokes and stuff.
But as it started being used for more malicious reasons, that's when Mob Man decided to leave the scene and basically not look back. He went on to programming and leaving the name Mob Man in the past too.
But as it started being used for more malicious reasons, that's when Mob Man decided to leave the scene and basically not look back. He went on to programming and leaving the name Mob Man in the past too.
So let's set the record straight. This is the real mob man, the actual creator of Sub 7. But even though this real mob man heard my interview with another mob man, he still didn't want to contact me to fix it.
So let's set the record straight. This is the real mob man, the actual creator of Sub 7. But even though this real mob man heard my interview with another mob man, he still didn't want to contact me to fix it.
Yeah, I mean, it makes sense what you were saying a minute ago, which was like, I was young when I did that. I'm done with that. I don't want to be part of that. I don't want to revisit that. I can see there's a lot of reasons. What I was worried was like, oh, yeah, some people did some awful things with that, and the FBI is looking for me. I think...
Yeah, I mean, it makes sense what you were saying a minute ago, which was like, I was young when I did that. I'm done with that. I don't want to be part of that. I don't want to revisit that. I can see there's a lot of reasons. What I was worried was like, oh, yeah, some people did some awful things with that, and the FBI is looking for me. I think...