Jack Recider
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And Greg just so happened to get arrested the same time too. And so he says that's why he disappeared. So did two Mob Men disappear at the same time? If there are two, then Greg is the only one who came back as Mob Man. The other Mob Man is still out there somewhere.
Well, a guy named Ill Will took it upon himself to find the real mob man, and he spent years hunting through the internet looking for him, and eventually found a clue which led him to a potential email address used by the real mob man. He emailed him, and sure enough, he said, yeah, I'm the one who created Sub 7. You found me. And I got connected with this mob man to hear the story. Hello, hello.
Well, a guy named Ill Will took it upon himself to find the real mob man, and he spent years hunting through the internet looking for him, and eventually found a clue which led him to a potential email address used by the real mob man. He emailed him, and sure enough, he said, yeah, I'm the one who created Sub 7. You found me. And I got connected with this mob man to hear the story. Hello, hello.
Yeah, why not? Now, you have the tag here, Mob Man, here in our call. I do. Is that your nickname? Yes. When did you start using that?
Yeah, why not? Now, you have the tag here, Mob Man, here in our call. I do. Is that your nickname? Yes. When did you start using that?
It's a trip, you know, to get here because for the last six years, I've known Mob Man to be a different guy. I'm aware. And now I feel like I've met a new Mob Man. So let's go back to the 90s. What was your early experience with just cybersecurity?
It's a trip, you know, to get here because for the last six years, I've known Mob Man to be a different guy. I'm aware. And now I feel like I've met a new Mob Man. So let's go back to the 90s. What was your early experience with just cybersecurity?
That was it. That's how everything started. And so, the story goes, Sub-7 was born.
That was it. That's how everything started. And so, the story goes, Sub-7 was born.
If you created this as like a coding challenge, did you ever feel bad when people used it for malicious purposes?
If you created this as like a coding challenge, did you ever feel bad when people used it for malicious purposes?
Hmm. The thing is, as this tool began getting popular, it started to be used more and more in criminal activity, using it to take over someone's computer. You can see exactly what they're doing on it. Or you could steal their files or session cookies or wipe their computer and delete everything.
Hmm. The thing is, as this tool began getting popular, it started to be used more and more in criminal activity, using it to take over someone's computer. You can see exactly what they're doing on it. Or you could steal their files or session cookies or wipe their computer and delete everything.
The problem is, creators of malware have sometimes been arrested just for creating it, not even doing anything bad with it. Because those creators were knowingly creating tools or weapons for criminals to do crimes with. Sub-7's official reason for existence was to prank people. It was for jokes and stuff.
The problem is, creators of malware have sometimes been arrested just for creating it, not even doing anything bad with it. Because those creators were knowingly creating tools or weapons for criminals to do crimes with. Sub-7's official reason for existence was to prank people. It was for jokes and stuff.
But as it started being used for more malicious reasons, that's when Mob Man decided to leave the scene and basically not look back. He went on to programming and leaving the name Mob Man in the past too.
But as it started being used for more malicious reasons, that's when Mob Man decided to leave the scene and basically not look back. He went on to programming and leaving the name Mob Man in the past too.
So let's set the record straight. This is the real mob man, the actual creator of Sub 7. But even though this real mob man heard my interview with another mob man, he still didn't want to contact me to fix it.