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So this story just took a 90-degree turn. The phone was not actually as private as it was advertising itself to be. But hold on tight, because we're taking another 90-degree turn right now. You've got to ask yourself, why was Anam wanting copies of every message? No, I don't think Anam or Afgu cared about looking at people's chats.
So this story just took a 90-degree turn. The phone was not actually as private as it was advertising itself to be. But hold on tight, because we're taking another 90-degree turn right now. You've got to ask yourself, why was Anam wanting copies of every message? No, I don't think Anam or Afgu cared about looking at people's chats.
However, Afgu knew the value of these messages and decided to make a very odd deal to let someone see those chats. And I'm not sure how all the logic went down here. We really don't know how this deal was made.
However, Afgu knew the value of these messages and decided to make a very odd deal to let someone see those chats. And I'm not sure how all the logic went down here. We really don't know how this deal was made.
But my best guess is, since Afgu wasn't a stranger to being a criminal himself, and he may have thought this whole encrypted phone business is actually illegal and could go very wrong for him at some point, and he needed a plan, I really don't know.
But my best guess is, since Afgu wasn't a stranger to being a criminal himself, and he may have thought this whole encrypted phone business is actually illegal and could go very wrong for him at some point, and he needed a plan, I really don't know.
I mean, I want to think he was a brilliant business person that just played everyone perfectly, but AFKU's lawyer advised him to make a deal with the FBI and let them see the encrypted chats. This way, the FBI would appreciate Afgu and not try to arrest him.
I mean, I want to think he was a brilliant business person that just played everyone perfectly, but AFKU's lawyer advised him to make a deal with the FBI and let them see the encrypted chats. This way, the FBI would appreciate Afgu and not try to arrest him.
Okay, so... That's quite a leap. It takes me and Beat to just kind of be like, okay, that's how the new thing is going, right? It's a jump.
Okay, so... That's quite a leap. It takes me and Beat to just kind of be like, okay, that's how the new thing is going, right? It's a jump.
So a deal was made. The FBI and AFP, Australian Federal Police, got access to all the encrypted messages going across Anam. And this is where I start to have a million questions. Who the hell is this AFKU person? An undercover cop acting like a fellow criminal, but really working with the feds? What kind of criminal makes deals with the feds like this?
So a deal was made. The FBI and AFP, Australian Federal Police, got access to all the encrypted messages going across Anam. And this is where I start to have a million questions. Who the hell is this AFKU person? An undercover cop acting like a fellow criminal, but really working with the feds? What kind of criminal makes deals with the feds like this?
If this gets discovered, his whole business is ruined. Or is Afgu a brilliant business person, cashing in on both sides of the fence, making money off criminals and federal police at the same time? Maybe he's playing some 4D chess, trying to be a few moves ahead of everyone. There's a lot of unanswered questions here. But the AFP were the first to get access to this.
If this gets discovered, his whole business is ruined. Or is Afgu a brilliant business person, cashing in on both sides of the fence, making money off criminals and federal police at the same time? Maybe he's playing some 4D chess, trying to be a few moves ahead of everyone. There's a lot of unanswered questions here. But the AFP were the first to get access to this.
And they were looking through the logs and were like, there's nothing here. Because Anom was just a startup company and didn't have any users yet. With the product already and the infrastructure in place, it was time to start marketing the thing. The next plan was figure out how to get these Anom phones in the hands of criminals, specifically criminals.
And they were looking through the logs and were like, there's nothing here. Because Anom was just a startup company and didn't have any users yet. With the product already and the infrastructure in place, it was time to start marketing the thing. The next plan was figure out how to get these Anom phones in the hands of criminals, specifically criminals.
And I guess now I'm starting to see why this phone was purpose-made for criminals. So the FBI and AFP could see what everyone was doing.
And I guess now I'm starting to see why this phone was purpose-made for criminals. So the FBI and AFP could see what everyone was doing.