Jack Recider

If the FBI were to cross that boundary in the physical world, it would be akin to them secretly breaking into thousands of homes, rummaging through personal belongings because they're trying to detect crime. This wouldn't be acceptable. So why, then, should our digital lives be subject to a lower standard of privacy?

If the FBI were to cross that boundary in the physical world, it would be akin to them secretly breaking into thousands of homes, rummaging through personal belongings because they're trying to detect crime. This wouldn't be acceptable. So why, then, should our digital lives be subject to a lower standard of privacy?

I guess the FBI uses all kinds of spy gear, though, to cross that threshold all the time, like wiretapping and planting bugs. They're always covertly reaching into someone's communication and taking it. But I think what's different about this story is the mass surveillance aspect to it. All messages for all users were being collected and stored.

I guess the FBI uses all kinds of spy gear, though, to cross that threshold all the time, like wiretapping and planting bugs. They're always covertly reaching into someone's communication and taking it. But I think what's different about this story is the mass surveillance aspect to it. All messages for all users were being collected and stored.

And maybe it wasn't stored in the FBI's database exactly, but the FBI was funding this company who was collecting it all. I remember when the Snowden revelations came out. The NSA and GCHQ were trying to collect massive amounts of data flowing over the internets, not targeting a specific person, just grabbing everything, which means a lot of non-criminals were getting their data analyzed.

And maybe it wasn't stored in the FBI's database exactly, but the FBI was funding this company who was collecting it all. I remember when the Snowden revelations came out. The NSA and GCHQ were trying to collect massive amounts of data flowing over the internets, not targeting a specific person, just grabbing everything, which means a lot of non-criminals were getting their data analyzed.

And I wonder... Is that offensive as well? It's mass spying at least. And I, for one, don't approve of governments doing mass spying on their citizens. But this is a crazy ethical dilemma because what if the mass spying is just on the criminals?

And I wonder... Is that offensive as well? It's mass spying at least. And I, for one, don't approve of governments doing mass spying on their citizens. But this is a crazy ethical dilemma because what if the mass spying is just on the criminals?

People sometimes say to me when we're talking about government surveillance that they've got nothing to hide and they aren't worried about it. Well, what those people are really saying is that they're always going to comply with the government no matter what. They're never going to have dissenting views or protest.

People sometimes say to me when we're talking about government surveillance that they've got nothing to hide and they aren't worried about it. Well, what those people are really saying is that they're always going to comply with the government no matter what. They're never going to have dissenting views or protest.

And honestly, I've never met anyone who 100% agrees with the government no matter the leadership. It's important that we preserve our freedom to have opposing views without the government watching us. Because the thing is, if we're being watched, it changes our actions. I mean, gosh, in this story, the FBI themselves has stuff to hide. And they can't spy on people in the U.S.

And honestly, I've never met anyone who 100% agrees with the government no matter the leadership. It's important that we preserve our freedom to have opposing views without the government watching us. Because the thing is, if we're being watched, it changes our actions. I mean, gosh, in this story, the FBI themselves has stuff to hide. And they can't spy on people in the U.S.

without proper warrants and stuff. But they were circumventing this rule by providing intelligence to other countries and then those countries providing intelligence back to the FBI.

without proper warrants and stuff. But they were circumventing this rule by providing intelligence to other countries and then those countries providing intelligence back to the FBI.

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