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On top of that, they were like, well, don't even look at the US chats, right? Just look the other way because we don't have approval to even look at it.

Yeah, but like we've been talking, you know, it introduces so many ethical dilemmas within law enforcement of, well, do we need a wiretap for this and all this kind of stuff? What's allowed and what's not allowed? And they're just like, screw it. We're going to just get all the data and we'll figure out what's allowed later. It seems weird to go that direction.

Yeah, but like we've been talking, you know, it introduces so many ethical dilemmas within law enforcement of, well, do we need a wiretap for this and all this kind of stuff? What's allowed and what's not allowed? And they're just like, screw it. We're going to just get all the data and we'll figure out what's allowed later. It seems weird to go that direction.

Yeah, and I also just realized how if the FBI is running a tech company that is a communication platform, which is facilitating the murder and drug deal... Are they responsible for, well, we're the ones who made this communication possible. We're the ones who put the phone in your hand to make this even happen. Is there some responsibility there?

Yeah, and I also just realized how if the FBI is running a tech company that is a communication platform, which is facilitating the murder and drug deal... Are they responsible for, well, we're the ones who made this communication possible. We're the ones who put the phone in your hand to make this even happen. Is there some responsibility there?

Gosh, and I think about AFKU again. He was making a phone for criminals, right? Like he was working with criminals, listening to their requests and adding in features like a remote wipe ability.

Gosh, and I think about AFKU again. He was making a phone for criminals, right? Like he was working with criminals, listening to their requests and adding in features like a remote wipe ability.

So because AFKU was making this for criminals, it meant he was a criminal. Clearly, right?

So because AFKU was making this for criminals, it meant he was a criminal. Clearly, right?

Yet it was the FBI who was the true owners of this company. So what does that make the FBI if they were making something purposely for criminals to use? The implications of this story just keep going and going. I'm telling you, I have like a million questions. I just love this book.

Yet it was the FBI who was the true owners of this company. So what does that make the FBI if they were making something purposely for criminals to use? The implications of this story just keep going and going. I'm telling you, I have like a million questions. I just love this book.

June 7th, 2021. Yes. Yes. What happens on this day?

June 7th, 2021. Yes. Yes. What happens on this day?

Shattered any confidence that criminals may have in the use of encrypted devices? I'm not sure this is a good take. Because what about me? Who just wants a hardened encrypted device for, you know, privacy and security?

Shattered any confidence that criminals may have in the use of encrypted devices? I'm not sure this is a good take. Because what about me? Who just wants a hardened encrypted device for, you know, privacy and security?

Someone even asked the FBI at the press briefing about this.

Someone even asked the FBI at the press briefing about this.

This is why I love Joseph so much. He's sneaking into law enforcement conferences to get the story. We've skipped over so much of the book.

This is why I love Joseph so much. He's sneaking into law enforcement conferences to get the story. We've skipped over so much of the book.

I purposely left out some of my favorite parts of the book just so you can enjoy it still. This story goes deeper and deeper and deeper. And so you should do yourself a favor and go read Dark Wire by Joseph Cox. A big thank you to Joseph Cox for sharing this story with us. You can find a link to his book, Dark Wire, in the show notes. Again, it's highly recommended.