Jack Rhysider

And then when you finally got around to printing it, it's like, okay, well, we'll just print the articles.

So Tempout proved themselves to be able to ship an issue of Frack.

Great.

But Frack started in 1985.

So with 2025 coming, it would mark the 40th anniversary of Frack, which got a lot of people excited to pitch in and help make a great new issue.

So FRAC issue 72 was released at DEF CON in 2025.

And I was there to get a copy of it.

Most, if not all, articles of Frack are simply text files.

There are no visuals or graphics at all.

Well, I should say you can see some ASCII art there, but that's just still text in the shape of a picture.

But this 40th anniversary edition, man, does it pop.

Every page has a graphic on it, and it's really cool.

It feels like a high-quality magazine at this point, and it's bulky and has a ton of articles in it.

It looks great.

It feels like you're coming of age, but even 40 years later, and it's looking great.

I like that.

That makes me excited about the future.

You said 8,000 copies to DEF CON?

Yeah.

I mean...