Jack Rhysider

Okay, first, let's start out with some introductions.

In your words, can you tell us what is Frack Magazine?

where you put snap caps or pop caps on it and throw some rocks together, and you throw the balloon off a roof, and when it hits the ground, the little popper snaps, and then it creates a little explosion.

I think that was issue one.

And so...

It's interesting how anarchy kind of shows up in frack.

Like bombs, what is this doing in a hacker magazine?

In my opinion, frac seems to capture some kind of counterculture.

It's notes from the underground type stuff.

Because back in the 90s, cybersecurity wasn't quite a mainstream profession yet.

Like schools didn't teach you how to secure networks or how to hack.

But nowadays, almost every major university has a major in cybersecurity.

So back in the 90s, there was just this underground group of people breaking computers, basically, and talking about it in chat rooms and on forums.

You had freakers, hackers, rippers, crackers, seeders, which welcomed in artists and musicians who were making things on their computers.

And this was collectively known as the scene back then.

And I think it was this underground scene that frack was born out of and has its roots in.

I'm fascinated by these two cultures, the cybersecurity professional and the scene hacker.

One does it for money, and it's their career.

And one does it for fun.

It's their hobby.