Jack Smith

And is there is there any sometimes like, well, Trump will say a thing.

And it turns out when you get to the end of it, there's some little kernel of maybe a thing.

But I do you have anything on that on the office thing?

What what they're on about?

One thing I want to be clear about today, the case that I investigated and the case we had, it was built to be tried in a courtroom, not in the media.

Our case was built to withstand the crucible of litigation, and our assessment was that we had proof beyond a reasonable doubt that would do that.

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You were collecting months' worth of phone data on the Republican Speaker of the House, the leader of the opposition, right after he got sworn in as Speaker, all around the time of a major vote.

That sounds like a flagrant violation of the speech or debate clause to me, and I think most people agree with me.

And Speaker McCarthy had no recourse, did he?

Because you issued a nondisclosure order ensuring that neither he nor any of the American people knew about these subpoenas.

Is that right?

The toll record, the non-content toll record subpoenas, we did secure nondisclosure orders for those subpoenas.

You did, and let me ask you, Mr. Smith, at the time you secured those nondisclosure orders, was Speaker McCarthy a flight risk?

The nondisclosure order was based on concerns about... Was Speaker McCarthy a flight risk?

He was not.

He was not.

Then why did your nondisclosure order refer to him as a flight risk?

It says right here the court finds reasonable grounds to believe that such disclosure will result in flight from prosecution.

Sir, when securing a nondisclosure order, the risks don't have to be associated.