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Jack Symes

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2193 - Jack Symes

This is what I found speaking to some of the comedians after the show, because comedians are often, you know, the strongest defenders of free speech, right? It's an interesting conversation.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2193 - Jack Symes

This is what I found speaking to some of the comedians after the show, because comedians are often, you know, the strongest defenders of free speech, right? It's an interesting conversation.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2193 - Jack Symes

Is that when we're thinking about the things we value most, I think things that come ahead of free speech are things like life, ability to have conscious experiences, the potential to flourish, be happy and experience pleasure. So I take even if free speech is something worth pursuing for its own sake, which I take it to be, it is still subject to those other things.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2193 - Jack Symes

Is that when we're thinking about the things we value most, I think things that come ahead of free speech are things like life, ability to have conscious experiences, the potential to flourish, be happy and experience pleasure. So I take even if free speech is something worth pursuing for its own sake, which I take it to be, it is still subject to those other things.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2193 - Jack Symes

Is that when we're thinking about the things we value most, I think things that come ahead of free speech are things like life, ability to have conscious experiences, the potential to flourish, be happy and experience pleasure. So I take even if free speech is something worth pursuing for its own sake, which I take it to be, it is still subject to those other things.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2193 - Jack Symes

So even one of the strongest proponents of free speech in the history of philosophy, John Stuart Mill, argued that free speech should be allowed in every single scenario except when it breaches the harm principle. And so the interesting question we need to ask is, when does something breach the harm principle? People famously say, so you can't shout fire in a crowded theater.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2193 - Jack Symes

So even one of the strongest proponents of free speech in the history of philosophy, John Stuart Mill, argued that free speech should be allowed in every single scenario except when it breaches the harm principle. And so the interesting question we need to ask is, when does something breach the harm principle? People famously say, so you can't shout fire in a crowded theater.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2193 - Jack Symes

So even one of the strongest proponents of free speech in the history of philosophy, John Stuart Mill, argued that free speech should be allowed in every single scenario except when it breaches the harm principle. And so the interesting question we need to ask is, when does something breach the harm principle? People famously say, so you can't shout fire in a crowded theater.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2193 - Jack Symes

If you know by shouting fire that there's going to be a stampede and two people will die, thought experiments, pretend those are the rules. You shout fire, two people will die. Should we punish that person for doing it, knowing that those two people would die? And you sort of go... I think it's fairly reasonable. It doesn't have to be 100% the case.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2193 - Jack Symes

If you know by shouting fire that there's going to be a stampede and two people will die, thought experiments, pretend those are the rules. You shout fire, two people will die. Should we punish that person for doing it, knowing that those two people would die? And you sort of go... I think it's fairly reasonable. It doesn't have to be 100% the case.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2193 - Jack Symes

If you know by shouting fire that there's going to be a stampede and two people will die, thought experiments, pretend those are the rules. You shout fire, two people will die. Should we punish that person for doing it, knowing that those two people would die? And you sort of go... I think it's fairly reasonable. It doesn't have to be 100% the case.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2193 - Jack Symes

We just need it to be more reasonable than not to prosecute that person. So in that case, you might go, yes. So it breaches the harm principle. John Stuart Mill gives the example of, I think it's like a corn dealer, and saying like, you can write in a newspaper like, The corn dealer's like, you know, he's the worst. He's exploiting us all. That's the reason we're hungry.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2193 - Jack Symes

We just need it to be more reasonable than not to prosecute that person. So in that case, you might go, yes. So it breaches the harm principle. John Stuart Mill gives the example of, I think it's like a corn dealer, and saying like, you can write in a newspaper like, The corn dealer's like, you know, he's the worst. He's exploiting us all. That's the reason we're hungry.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2193 - Jack Symes

We just need it to be more reasonable than not to prosecute that person. So in that case, you might go, yes. So it breaches the harm principle. John Stuart Mill gives the example of, I think it's like a corn dealer, and saying like, you can write in a newspaper like, The corn dealer's like, you know, he's the worst. He's exploiting us all. That's the reason we're hungry.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2193 - Jack Symes

But then he says, you can't shout that to an angry mob that's outside the corn dealer's house. And maybe that one's a little bit more tricky because there's more... The harm's not as direct. Right. But what we're seeing is... Public intellectuals who, back to our conversation earlier, like I'm a part of this team that just defends free speech no matter what.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2193 - Jack Symes

But then he says, you can't shout that to an angry mob that's outside the corn dealer's house. And maybe that one's a little bit more tricky because there's more... The harm's not as direct. Right. But what we're seeing is... Public intellectuals who, back to our conversation earlier, like I'm a part of this team that just defends free speech no matter what.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2193 - Jack Symes

But then he says, you can't shout that to an angry mob that's outside the corn dealer's house. And maybe that one's a little bit more tricky because there's more... The harm's not as direct. Right. But what we're seeing is... Public intellectuals who, back to our conversation earlier, like I'm a part of this team that just defends free speech no matter what.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2193 - Jack Symes

Like even the most valiant defender of free speech might go, don't shout fire in a crowded theater. One of your comedians actually said, I'd shout theater in a crowded fire. I thought that was funny. I'd even think it's okay to get people to stay in the fire if there was one.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2193 - Jack Symes

Like even the most valiant defender of free speech might go, don't shout fire in a crowded theater. One of your comedians actually said, I'd shout theater in a crowded fire. I thought that was funny. I'd even think it's okay to get people to stay in the fire if there was one.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2193 - Jack Symes

Like even the most valiant defender of free speech might go, don't shout fire in a crowded theater. One of your comedians actually said, I'd shout theater in a crowded fire. I thought that was funny. I'd even think it's okay to get people to stay in the fire if there was one.