Jack Symes

Well, take Rutger Bregman. Did you know the Utopia for Realists guy? He's a big proponent of universal basic income.

Well, take Rutger Bregman. Did you know the Utopia for Realists guy? He's a big proponent of universal basic income.

I can see if I can dig it at the same time. Okay, go ahead.

I can see if I can dig it at the same time. Okay, go ahead.

I can see if I can dig it at the same time. Okay, go ahead.

See if you can find that tweet. I'm just turning this on now as we're going. The big point here, though, when we're looking at... This is something Steven Pinker's always emphasizing, right? The idea that we shouldn't just be looking at anecdotal evidence, which is stuff like he does, and cherry-picking our examples to fit our political and ideological agendas. Right.

See if you can find that tweet. I'm just turning this on now as we're going. The big point here, though, when we're looking at... This is something Steven Pinker's always emphasizing, right? The idea that we shouldn't just be looking at anecdotal evidence, which is stuff like he does, and cherry-picking our examples to fit our political and ideological agendas. Right.

See if you can find that tweet. I'm just turning this on now as we're going. The big point here, though, when we're looking at... This is something Steven Pinker's always emphasizing, right? The idea that we shouldn't just be looking at anecdotal evidence, which is stuff like he does, and cherry-picking our examples to fit our political and ideological agendas. Right.

We should look at the big data. Rutger Bregman points out wonderfully in his book, Utopia for Realists, that... People that come to the U.S., for example, first-generation migrants, are less likely to commit crimes than the native population. The same is true for their children as well in the U.S. and the same stories in the U.K.

We should look at the big data. Rutger Bregman points out wonderfully in his book, Utopia for Realists, that... People that come to the U.S., for example, first-generation migrants, are less likely to commit crimes than the native population. The same is true for their children as well in the U.S. and the same stories in the U.K.

We should look at the big data. Rutger Bregman points out wonderfully in his book, Utopia for Realists, that... People that come to the U.S., for example, first-generation migrants, are less likely to commit crimes than the native population. The same is true for their children as well in the U.S. and the same stories in the U.K.

They're less likely to be filling up our prisons than people who live there.

They're less likely to be filling up our prisons than people who live there.

They're less likely to be filling up our prisons than people who live there.

It might be lumped in together. Again, we're fact-checking.

It might be lumped in together. Again, we're fact-checking.

It might be lumped in together. Again, we're fact-checking.

Right? Yeah.

Right? Yeah.

Right? Yeah.