Jack Wagner

So to me, this is interesting because on one hand, you created this hoax. But on the other hand, you certainly didn't create people seeing strange wolf slash dog-like things.

things that they can't explain like that's not new that's really old and it's been going on all over the world so i've encountered a lot of people chalk up this entire thing to you and i as a result had a very difficult time speaking to any wolf experts in michigan uh thanks to you but

things that they can't explain like that's not new that's really old and it's been going on all over the world so i've encountered a lot of people chalk up this entire thing to you and i as a result had a very difficult time speaking to any wolf experts in michigan uh thanks to you but

things that they can't explain like that's not new that's really old and it's been going on all over the world so i've encountered a lot of people chalk up this entire thing to you and i as a result had a very difficult time speaking to any wolf experts in michigan uh thanks to you but

So on one hand, the myth you created, this hoax, got out of control and ran wild, had a life on its own. But I also think there's a secondary meta myth, sort of, that you completely created this and that every sighting happened after the fact and that it was all these people who just imagined they're seeing something that they heard on the radio. When in reality...

So on one hand, the myth you created, this hoax, got out of control and ran wild, had a life on its own. But I also think there's a secondary meta myth, sort of, that you completely created this and that every sighting happened after the fact and that it was all these people who just imagined they're seeing something that they heard on the radio. When in reality...

So on one hand, the myth you created, this hoax, got out of control and ran wild, had a life on its own. But I also think there's a secondary meta myth, sort of, that you completely created this and that every sighting happened after the fact and that it was all these people who just imagined they're seeing something that they heard on the radio. When in reality...

It sounds like most of these things happened before and were happening long ago.

It sounds like most of these things happened before and were happening long ago.

It sounds like most of these things happened before and were happening long ago.

Well, Steve, thank you so much for speaking to me. This has been really interesting. If you have any other hoaxes planned, please give me a heads up. It might be helpful.

Well, Steve, thank you so much for speaking to me. This has been really interesting. If you have any other hoaxes planned, please give me a heads up. It might be helpful.

Well, Steve, thank you so much for speaking to me. This has been really interesting. If you have any other hoaxes planned, please give me a heads up. It might be helpful.

I'm sure. Any other paranormal ones I need to know about?

I'm sure. Any other paranormal ones I need to know about?

I'm sure. Any other paranormal ones I need to know about?

Steve, thank you once again for speaking with me. If I make any major discoveries, I'll be sure to let you know.

Steve, thank you once again for speaking with me. If I make any major discoveries, I'll be sure to let you know.

Steve, thank you once again for speaking with me. If I make any major discoveries, I'll be sure to let you know.

You bet. It was fun. All right, Steve. Have a good one. It was nice to meet you.