Jack Wagner

I mean, they were just as shocked.

Oh, my God.

So that was the damper on the chaos magic.

How did he relate to the chaos magic people?

Where's the goat guy now?

Oh, for the goat?

Well, this took a very, very strange turn from an already strange place.

You guys got to record her.

Thank you to Xavier and Connor for sharing this story with me seven years ago.

Wherever these two are, I hope they're doing well.

And I guess that goes for Ramona as well.

I always thought that story was so weird.

Like I said, it was one that I was obviously laughing at at the time, mostly because it's so strange, but I always just thought that was so unsettling, the thought of trying to summon something almost as a joke for fun.

and then it unexpectedly working in such an eerie way.

Also, thank you to Bo and Crocus for sharing their story, and thank you for listening.

This episode has been called Phantom Channel, and you've been listening to Otherworld.

Otherworld is executive produced and hosted by myself, Jack Wagner.

Our producers are Theo Schaefer, Theo Krantz, Haley Pearson, and Nikki Kate Delgado.

Our theme song is by Cobra Man.

The soundtrack of this episode is by North Americans.