Jack Wagner

driving from the suburbs of Chicago out to Door County, Wisconsin. A drive that was normally very uneventful and routine for them, but this time, things were different. This is episode 125. The title is The Light of Door County, and you're listening to Otherworld. Hello? Is this Bobby? Yes, it is. At its core, the science you can't argue with.

driving from the suburbs of Chicago out to Door County, Wisconsin. A drive that was normally very uneventful and routine for them, but this time, things were different. This is episode 125. The title is The Light of Door County, and you're listening to Otherworld. Hello? Is this Bobby? Yes, it is. At its core, the science you can't argue with.

All right, we have to take a break. We'll be right back with the rest of this episode.

All right, we have to take a break. We'll be right back with the rest of this episode.

All right, we have to take a break. We'll be right back with the rest of this episode.

So, after talking to Susan and hearing her version of events, I obviously wanted to speak to her now ex-husband, John, aka Zoe's dad, just to see if he had any additional information about the night. His version of the story was pretty much the same, but I did notice one big difference in his recollection in terms of where they woke up in the morning.

So, after talking to Susan and hearing her version of events, I obviously wanted to speak to her now ex-husband, John, aka Zoe's dad, just to see if he had any additional information about the night. His version of the story was pretty much the same, but I did notice one big difference in his recollection in terms of where they woke up in the morning.

So, after talking to Susan and hearing her version of events, I obviously wanted to speak to her now ex-husband, John, aka Zoe's dad, just to see if he had any additional information about the night. His version of the story was pretty much the same, but I did notice one big difference in his recollection in terms of where they woke up in the morning.

I was a little concerned when I first heard this, thinking it might be an issue that they remembered things completely differently. But as I continued to listen to John explain things, I realized that... Their stories actually did not conflict with each other.

I was a little concerned when I first heard this, thinking it might be an issue that they remembered things completely differently. But as I continued to listen to John explain things, I realized that... Their stories actually did not conflict with each other.

I was a little concerned when I first heard this, thinking it might be an issue that they remembered things completely differently. But as I continued to listen to John explain things, I realized that... Their stories actually did not conflict with each other.

It just turns out that John woke up somewhere completely different from Susan quite some time before she woke up and ended up in the same room with her by the time she woke up. I don't think she ever even knew this until now. For me, it added an entire new spin on that part of the story, and I thought it was so interesting. So here is the conversation that I had with John.

It just turns out that John woke up somewhere completely different from Susan quite some time before she woke up and ended up in the same room with her by the time she woke up. I don't think she ever even knew this until now. For me, it added an entire new spin on that part of the story, and I thought it was so interesting. So here is the conversation that I had with John.

It just turns out that John woke up somewhere completely different from Susan quite some time before she woke up and ended up in the same room with her by the time she woke up. I don't think she ever even knew this until now. For me, it added an entire new spin on that part of the story, and I thought it was so interesting. So here is the conversation that I had with John.

Okay, thank you so much to Susan and John for speaking to me. First of all, I thought it was wild how John's version of that night ended up changing things a little bit. Like I said, at first I was a little concerned when they had different versions that they were recalling, which does happen sometimes. I mean, this is a 30-year-old memory that's normal, but it can also be an issue. However...

Okay, thank you so much to Susan and John for speaking to me. First of all, I thought it was wild how John's version of that night ended up changing things a little bit. Like I said, at first I was a little concerned when they had different versions that they were recalling, which does happen sometimes. I mean, this is a 30-year-old memory that's normal, but it can also be an issue. However...

Okay, thank you so much to Susan and John for speaking to me. First of all, I thought it was wild how John's version of that night ended up changing things a little bit. Like I said, at first I was a little concerned when they had different versions that they were recalling, which does happen sometimes. I mean, this is a 30-year-old memory that's normal, but it can also be an issue. However...

As he explained waking up in bed and what he did after, I realized that the story is lined up perfectly. It's just that Susan woke up and John was sitting in that chair and she assumed he was there the whole time. In reality, he woke up quite some time before on top of the bed in his clothes with a headache. He laid there trying to figure out what happened.

As he explained waking up in bed and what he did after, I realized that the story is lined up perfectly. It's just that Susan woke up and John was sitting in that chair and she assumed he was there the whole time. In reality, he woke up quite some time before on top of the bed in his clothes with a headache. He laid there trying to figure out what happened.

As he explained waking up in bed and what he did after, I realized that the story is lined up perfectly. It's just that Susan woke up and John was sitting in that chair and she assumed he was there the whole time. In reality, he woke up quite some time before on top of the bed in his clothes with a headache. He laid there trying to figure out what happened.