Jack Wagner

I am joined now by Daniel Paul. He is an architectural historian and a man who knows a lot about a very specific building that we're gonna be talking about today. Daniel, welcome to the show. Thank you for speaking to me.

What is your background exactly? How did you end up becoming an expert, the expert on this building? You wrote the historical papers for the Integratron.

What is your background exactly? How did you end up becoming an expert, the expert on this building? You wrote the historical papers for the Integratron.

What is your background exactly? How did you end up becoming an expert, the expert on this building? You wrote the historical papers for the Integratron.

You are exactly the person that I need to talk to about this. I'm very glad that I found you. First of all, very basic question. Can you just tell me what is the Integratron?

You are exactly the person that I need to talk to about this. I'm very glad that I found you. First of all, very basic question. Can you just tell me what is the Integratron?

You are exactly the person that I need to talk to about this. I'm very glad that I found you. First of all, very basic question. Can you just tell me what is the Integratron?

Yes. And as a novice who just kind of heard about this place somewhere nearby to where I live, you know, in Los Angeles, I always heard of it as, you know, this strange place that has a unique design and, and, uh, kind of like perfect acoustics almost. Is that true? Are the acoustics inside of this place remarkable in some way?

Yes. And as a novice who just kind of heard about this place somewhere nearby to where I live, you know, in Los Angeles, I always heard of it as, you know, this strange place that has a unique design and, and, uh, kind of like perfect acoustics almost. Is that true? Are the acoustics inside of this place remarkable in some way?

Yes. And as a novice who just kind of heard about this place somewhere nearby to where I live, you know, in Los Angeles, I always heard of it as, you know, this strange place that has a unique design and, and, uh, kind of like perfect acoustics almost. Is that true? Are the acoustics inside of this place remarkable in some way?

That is fascinating. Okay, so I should catch you up a little bit on why I'm talking to you. I interviewed a person who had an encounter with a UFO, essentially. They were camping in the Ojai area with their friends in high school. and saw this thing in the sky, of course. They're woken up to it. The remarkable thing for him was not what he saw, it was what he heard.

That is fascinating. Okay, so I should catch you up a little bit on why I'm talking to you. I interviewed a person who had an encounter with a UFO, essentially. They were camping in the Ojai area with their friends in high school. and saw this thing in the sky, of course. They're woken up to it. The remarkable thing for him was not what he saw, it was what he heard.

That is fascinating. Okay, so I should catch you up a little bit on why I'm talking to you. I interviewed a person who had an encounter with a UFO, essentially. They were camping in the Ojai area with their friends in high school. and saw this thing in the sky, of course. They're woken up to it. The remarkable thing for him was not what he saw, it was what he heard.

He described hearing this sound that was like a resonant tone that shook his core. like literally like vibrated his bones is how he was describing it to me. And he said it was an incredibly unique sound. He's never heard anything like it in his life. It completely resonated throughout his body. And this was in high school. The experience was weird. It was him and his high school friends.

He described hearing this sound that was like a resonant tone that shook his core. like literally like vibrated his bones is how he was describing it to me. And he said it was an incredibly unique sound. He's never heard anything like it in his life. It completely resonated throughout his body. And this was in high school. The experience was weird. It was him and his high school friends.

He described hearing this sound that was like a resonant tone that shook his core. like literally like vibrated his bones is how he was describing it to me. And he said it was an incredibly unique sound. He's never heard anything like it in his life. It completely resonated throughout his body. And this was in high school. The experience was weird. It was him and his high school friends.

They kind of put it behind them and he didn't think about it for a while until years later when he's an adult and he goes into with his girlfriend, who booked them a sound bath at the Integratron. He didn't know anything about this place. He just went along with his girlfriend. And they do the sound bath.

They kind of put it behind them and he didn't think about it for a while until years later when he's an adult and he goes into with his girlfriend, who booked them a sound bath at the Integratron. He didn't know anything about this place. He just went along with his girlfriend. And they do the sound bath.

They kind of put it behind them and he didn't think about it for a while until years later when he's an adult and he goes into with his girlfriend, who booked them a sound bath at the Integratron. He didn't know anything about this place. He just went along with his girlfriend. And they do the sound bath.

And as these glass bowls are being played in the dome, he said it was the first time he ever heard a sound similar to what this UFO was making. And it gave him flashbacks, essentially. He said it was crazy. It was like the same exact sound and feeling that he experienced before.