Jack Wagner

Daniel, thank you so much for your time and telling me this amazing story of George Van Tassel and the Integratron. This is really fascinating. I've always wanted to know more about this place and especially in relation to the story that made me start researching it in the first place.

Daniel, thank you so much for your time and telling me this amazing story of George Van Tassel and the Integratron. This is really fascinating. I've always wanted to know more about this place and especially in relation to the story that made me start researching it in the first place.

Daniel, thank you so much for your time and telling me this amazing story of George Van Tassel and the Integratron. This is really fascinating. I've always wanted to know more about this place and especially in relation to the story that made me start researching it in the first place.

Thank you so much. Okay, thank you once again to Daniel Paul for coming on the show and catching me up on the history of George Van Tassel and the Integratron. I really went in not knowing much about this, and I was completely blown away by how vast the history is. I started out looking for answers about David's experience out in Ojai, but now I just have more questions.

Thank you so much. Okay, thank you once again to Daniel Paul for coming on the show and catching me up on the history of George Van Tassel and the Integratron. I really went in not knowing much about this, and I was completely blown away by how vast the history is. I started out looking for answers about David's experience out in Ojai, but now I just have more questions.

Thank you so much. Okay, thank you once again to Daniel Paul for coming on the show and catching me up on the history of George Van Tassel and the Integratron. I really went in not knowing much about this, and I was completely blown away by how vast the history is. I started out looking for answers about David's experience out in Ojai, but now I just have more questions.

Did David experience these flashbacks because of the sound bath? Maybe from being in the building itself that was meant to be this machine? A machine designed by an alien named Solgonda? Or from just being out in the same desert near Giant Rock where George and his colleagues spent decades allegedly attempting to make and successfully make contact with these beings?

Did David experience these flashbacks because of the sound bath? Maybe from being in the building itself that was meant to be this machine? A machine designed by an alien named Solgonda? Or from just being out in the same desert near Giant Rock where George and his colleagues spent decades allegedly attempting to make and successfully make contact with these beings?

Did David experience these flashbacks because of the sound bath? Maybe from being in the building itself that was meant to be this machine? A machine designed by an alien named Solgonda? Or from just being out in the same desert near Giant Rock where George and his colleagues spent decades allegedly attempting to make and successfully make contact with these beings?

All of these questions lingered. I had many more beyond that. And it turns out I was not exactly done with the Integratron, or perhaps the Integratron wasn't quite done with me. After we stopped recording the interview you just heard, Daniel, Paul, and myself stayed and chatted for a while. And while we were chatting, he mentioned that if I was curious...

All of these questions lingered. I had many more beyond that. And it turns out I was not exactly done with the Integratron, or perhaps the Integratron wasn't quite done with me. After we stopped recording the interview you just heard, Daniel, Paul, and myself stayed and chatted for a while. And while we were chatting, he mentioned that if I was curious...

All of these questions lingered. I had many more beyond that. And it turns out I was not exactly done with the Integratron, or perhaps the Integratron wasn't quite done with me. After we stopped recording the interview you just heard, Daniel, Paul, and myself stayed and chatted for a while. And while we were chatting, he mentioned that if I was curious...

There was this guy named Don out in the desert who owns George Van Tassel's entire archive. Daniel shared with me some recordings of George that Don owns, but he told me that this guy Don has over 70 reel-to-reel tapes. Boxes of George's photos, the original model of the Integratron, and the blueprints. My first thought was that, you know, we probably don't need any of that for these episodes.

There was this guy named Don out in the desert who owns George Van Tassel's entire archive. Daniel shared with me some recordings of George that Don owns, but he told me that this guy Don has over 70 reel-to-reel tapes. Boxes of George's photos, the original model of the Integratron, and the blueprints. My first thought was that, you know, we probably don't need any of that for these episodes.

There was this guy named Don out in the desert who owns George Van Tassel's entire archive. Daniel shared with me some recordings of George that Don owns, but he told me that this guy Don has over 70 reel-to-reel tapes. Boxes of George's photos, the original model of the Integratron, and the blueprints. My first thought was that, you know, we probably don't need any of that for these episodes.

But Daniel was explaining this, and at a certain point, I think I asked, wait, who is this guy? Like, who is Don? And why does he have all this stuff? How did he get it? Daniel told me that his name is Don McKinney. He's a retired construction worker that lives out in the desert, very close to Giant Rock.

But Daniel was explaining this, and at a certain point, I think I asked, wait, who is this guy? Like, who is Don? And why does he have all this stuff? How did he get it? Daniel told me that his name is Don McKinney. He's a retired construction worker that lives out in the desert, very close to Giant Rock.

But Daniel was explaining this, and at a certain point, I think I asked, wait, who is this guy? Like, who is Don? And why does he have all this stuff? How did he get it? Daniel told me that his name is Don McKinney. He's a retired construction worker that lives out in the desert, very close to Giant Rock.

And he's basically an eccentric dude that acquired this collection years ago and has been doing his best to preserve it on his own. I asked Daniel if he knew whether or not the tapes and photos had been digitized and backed up. Daniel told me that Don was trying to do this, but he's getting older and doesn't have much money. And this is when I got pulled into a bit of a side quest.

And he's basically an eccentric dude that acquired this collection years ago and has been doing his best to preserve it on his own. I asked Daniel if he knew whether or not the tapes and photos had been digitized and backed up. Daniel told me that Don was trying to do this, but he's getting older and doesn't have much money. And this is when I got pulled into a bit of a side quest.