Jack Wagner

And I've always wanted to explore certain aspects of his experience in more detail. Eventually, I got the chance to do just that. In fact, after recording this interview, I went down a bit of a rabbit hole for a couple months. on this topic, but I don't want to get ahead of myself with that.

And I've always wanted to explore certain aspects of his experience in more detail. Eventually, I got the chance to do just that. In fact, after recording this interview, I went down a bit of a rabbit hole for a couple months. on this topic, but I don't want to get ahead of myself with that.

And I've always wanted to explore certain aspects of his experience in more detail. Eventually, I got the chance to do just that. In fact, after recording this interview, I went down a bit of a rabbit hole for a couple months. on this topic, but I don't want to get ahead of myself with that.

David had this experience when he was in high school out in Ojai, California, which is a beautiful place, an excellent place for camping, which is exactly what David and his friends were doing when they ended up encountering something very strange. I don't want to spoil anything, but what stuck out to me with this experience is that

David had this experience when he was in high school out in Ojai, California, which is a beautiful place, an excellent place for camping, which is exactly what David and his friends were doing when they ended up encountering something very strange. I don't want to spoil anything, but what stuck out to me with this experience is that

David had this experience when he was in high school out in Ojai, California, which is a beautiful place, an excellent place for camping, which is exactly what David and his friends were doing when they ended up encountering something very strange. I don't want to spoil anything, but what stuck out to me with this experience is that

I'm used to people talking about seeing things that they can't comprehend. In this case, David not only saw something, he also heard something that he couldn't comprehend. This is episode 122. The title is The Hum Over Ojai, and you're listening to Otherworld. Hello? Is this Bobby? Yes, it is. At its core, the science, you can't argue with.

I'm used to people talking about seeing things that they can't comprehend. In this case, David not only saw something, he also heard something that he couldn't comprehend. This is episode 122. The title is The Hum Over Ojai, and you're listening to Otherworld. Hello? Is this Bobby? Yes, it is. At its core, the science, you can't argue with.

I'm used to people talking about seeing things that they can't comprehend. In this case, David not only saw something, he also heard something that he couldn't comprehend. This is episode 122. The title is The Hum Over Ojai, and you're listening to Otherworld. Hello? Is this Bobby? Yes, it is. At its core, the science, you can't argue with.

All right, we'll be right back after this quick break. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Mental health awareness is growing, but there's still progress to be made. 26% of Americans who participated in a recent survey say that they have avoided seeking mental health support due to fear of judgment. When people hesitate to get help, it doesn't just affect them.

All right, we'll be right back after this quick break. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Mental health awareness is growing, but there's still progress to be made. 26% of Americans who participated in a recent survey say that they have avoided seeking mental health support due to fear of judgment. When people hesitate to get help, it doesn't just affect them.

All right, we'll be right back after this quick break. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Mental health awareness is growing, but there's still progress to be made. 26% of Americans who participated in a recent survey say that they have avoided seeking mental health support due to fear of judgment. When people hesitate to get help, it doesn't just affect them.

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It impacts families, workplaces, and entire communities. This is Mental Health Awareness Month. Let's encourage everyone to take care of their wellbeing and break the stigma. BetterHelp has over 10 years of experience matching people with the right therapist from their diverse network of over 30,000 licensed therapists with a wide range of specialties.

It impacts families, workplaces, and entire communities. This is Mental Health Awareness Month. Let's encourage everyone to take care of their wellbeing and break the stigma. BetterHelp has over 10 years of experience matching people with the right therapist from their diverse network of over 30,000 licensed therapists with a wide range of specialties.

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BetterHelp is fully online, making therapy affordable and convenient. We're all better with help. Visit betterhelp.com slash otherworld to get 10% off your first month. That's betterhelp, H-E-L-P dot com slash otherworld.

One of the boys started to exhibit demonic possession.

One of the boys started to exhibit demonic possession.