Jackie O

Which is what we should do.

And it's okay, though, to acknowledge it.

Yeah.

But I don't see anything wrong with also celebrating it as well because I don't think Australians should be hiding away in shame.

Over something.

Yes, I think it's terrible what happened and it's good to pay our respects in that regard.

But I hate to see us hide away and not celebrate how lucky we are to live in this country.

Yeah, see, I don't love that either, you know, because I think it's sad that we can't.

Yeah, yeah.

I think you're correct.

I'm with you.

So another thing you guys were talking about was how many people are sharing their location with their partners on the phone.

Yes, they are.

I find that such an invasion of privacy.

We need to be able to lie.

I think it's because my mum, I grew up with my mum always wanting to know everything about where I was, what I was doing every second of the day, still to this day.

She's still tracking me.

I can't get away with anything.

And I think I'm scarred by that and I need my own personal space.

So this seems like triggering for me.