Jackson

Nine-year-old, sitting in northern Indiana.

I would say so.

For John Deere stuff, we stopped at the historical site, went through all that stuff. It was closed, open for me. And then went to the pavilion, closed, open for me. That was cool.

And then the John Deere, the tractor museum was closed and opened for me.

At what place?

Probably at the historical site. I'm going to have to say the house and the blacksmith shop.

Well, I got to make like an S hook out of some steel.

Yep.

It was a replica of the building because the original one burnt down.

And then the dig site was the other thing that I liked there.

Kind of.

And then we went to the pavilion. My favorite thing there probably was the 110 garden tractor they had there.

Yeah, that or that 24 John Deere skid steer they had there.

I think you personally thought that I would be a good guest to have on the show. Yep, I did.

Becca. Yeah, yeah.

We met at Louisville.

Yeah, that was fun. We were both on the stage.

No.

No, we just went around. We just went around all that line. It was long.

Grandpa, dad, mama, and then everybody else pretty much in my family that's involved in farming.

Yes.

She tries. She tries.

I think it is. I'm assuming so. But I like doing it. I mean, I'm not an iPad kid right here. I mean, when I'm driving a long way, that's what I am. You do have an iPad? Oh, yeah.

Probably YouTube watching people on YouTube, probably.

Probably.

Let's say a lot of John Deere things. Owner's manuals, not really.

I was reading them the week before we came here.

Well, we got the barn. That's just going to get filled up. Then I'm going to need another barn and another and another.

Until I have to move out to my own place.

Two others. Two older sisters, 27 and 29. Okay.

Nope.

You know what? I really don't know. I really don't know.

No, I've not.

I don't have one, really.

Yeah, sometimes.

Oh, yeah. Sometimes.

Yes.

There's a John Deere Titan Series Combine cab and then the Case cab that he put in.

Yep, two of them with two TVs in front of it. Then he's got a PC and I think two PlayStations.

One thing I have to ask, how many acres do you farm?

Very good amount.

No, I was born and raised in Indiana.

I can see why. I used to watch a show from out east, and then I have some accent from down south, kind of a mix. Okay, got you. All three.

The John Deere booth.

Pretty much.

Anything else, if I really missed it, that's okay. Because there's always going to be more.

And there's always going to be another year.

They have two that they used. The other one that they just parted out and they took the motor out to put it in a 4020.

I actually don't know.

Pretty much, pretty much.

Mine would probably be my Uncle Rob's 3020 Power Shift diesel narrow front.

The only bad thing about the narrow front is when you put a loader on it, stability reasons.

Yeah, wide front track.

Never can. Never can have enough.

Mostly tractors, not really livestock, not that much.

I've been building the display for the Lafayette Farm Play Show. The big one's literally just a land of a mess, basically.

The big table? Okay, the big table would be 6 foot by 12 foot.

Yes. If I could, I would go bigger.

I think maybe every two or three inches would be probably an acre.

Yes.

In four months.

Yeah, it's February.

It has to be able to fit in the back of our car, so it's four by three-seven.

Yes, I would go bigger. If I could, I would go bigger.

Oh, she does that. She don't want me to get anything bigger.

Like, someday I want to have a feature farm. And I imagine that I have one now when I don't. But that's what it's probably going to be. It was looking all nice, but now it's just where I play with stuff now.

Farmhouse. There's a barn. It's already built. Like, it's... Pretty much done.

Nope.

It's been a while since I've been there, so I actually don't remember.

She's shaking her head now.

Yeah.

Here you go, kids. You can light it up.

I like that idea, too.

Yeah.

Yeah, he does make me some stuff.

I haven't seen one work either.

Yeah, I just get the product.

Nope.

I like that idea. That's a good idea. Very good idea.

If there's something that we need to talk about, we're like playing ahead to film that. Most of the time, we just tap the button on the camera and away we go.

Probably the top of the mountain probably right now.

I really can't think of anywhere else to go.

You have to be like 12 or 13 to get in there.

I'd have to say that Steiger 1066 I got from you.

Yeah, custom.

I'm wanting to go over there.

Hold on. I did get something. A box with a toolbox inside of it and some stuff and goodies inside of it. But the box that was outside the toolbox had my face and name and making farming fun, Jackson Locks, just a Jackson thing on it.

Well, she'll have to tell you because I don't do any of that. She's my manager.

She don't charge.

No.

Yeah.

Mostly adults, I would say.

It's been a while. It's been a little while.

Well, no, don't do that. Don't do that.

That is the brand that makes that tea. Let's see, they make tea, root beer. Have you ever had Culver's root beer?

It's what that tastes like.

Same with sweet tea. It tastes like the Culver's sweet tea. And then they got like a strawberry dragon fruit and farmer's punch.

That punch was pretty good, I would have to say. That punch was pretty good.

Hopefully having a farm. I guess that's where I see myself.

I didn't realize they would.

Now you've got 30. Yes.

Yep.

Yep, sometimes. She said something online like there's spurts where it goes vroom.

Or a ton. And then there's spots where it goes up.

There's a lot of things I'd like to see. I haven't even been on the other side of the show. You've only been here. I really don't know.

Yes, first time ever.

Yeah, I think.

You can ask them. I don't know.

Yeah, absolutely.

Is it TVPG? Yeah. Okay. The one last year was fine.

No, it needs to be that the whole time.

I'd say yes.

It's like I just, well, put it up and... Have you counted how many you have?

I'm right there with numbers and hats.

Out of the hats now.

Probably this one. I like your hat, too, and that one.

The shirt matches it, too. I know. These are fancy, bright shirts.

Pretty much, I think.

If there's something that we need to talk about, we'll plan ahead to film that. Most of the time, we just tap the button on the camera and away we go.

Yeah, I got those sent. He's got his pair on.

I think that's ours.

I'd have to look at the video to know, which I really don't. There's so many, I don't know how many I have.

Asking questions, yeah.

On pig farm.

Chocolate.

I'm math.

Favorite would be math.

Kind of both.

Chicken strips.

Honey mustard. Honey mustard. Both. Honey mustard and ketchup. Both. Okay.

Pretty much, yeah.

Push.

I've got like an old Black & Decker plug-in push lawn.

I just do it because I want to do it.

Most of them I like doing besides laundry and dishes.

No.

I've never actually seen one mow before.

The 112 is basically my golf cart. I go down and get the mail, pull a wagon around, that kind of stuff. That's it. 430, I plow and mow with. 420, same mow, plow, chisel with.

No, I do not.

Why don't you use the 1025?

Yeah. Electric push mower. Black and Decker.

I'm the opposite. I like to mow.

I've called a tractor pull. I have been to.

A few times.

I'm going to be doing that one today. Really? Yeah, I have done some pedal pulls. I did it at Louisville County Fair, too.

No, I haven't done anything over there.

I feel like I have to get a full pull. I feel like that's just the right thing to do. I have to get a full pull, I feel like.

Same for me.

That's right. Definitely.

Yes.

Yes.

I'm going to have to say no.

Yes. Yes.

Yes. Definitely. Definitely.

Are you trying to brainwash me with Adco?

They have schooled me right. I don't want to get brainwashed.

That's not a lot of money for a car.

I would say so, yeah.

Square body Chevy.

How big is your yard? Do you need all of them or no?

Yes. Yes. I think it's cool.

Yeah.

Yes.

Will do.

Can I ask, ready to wrap up? Can I just ask?

Okay.

Okay.

Will do.

How about this? That's all she wrote.

hello jackson what's up dude this is dj you're live on the real af show with andy what's up guys how are you good bro how are you i'm doing fantastic i appreciate you guys uh taking my question yeah so so what can we do for you brother so i uh i guess let me let me pull it up because to be completely honest you know i i don't remember what the fuck i submitted to you guys two weeks ago but uh

Was there a point early on when the first taste of success, money recognition, or any of that stuff almost made you slow down? And if so, what snapped you out of it and made you double down instead?

I got you. So, you know, I hear Ed talk about this all the time, too, in terms of, you know, falling back on it seems like, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like you have a set of habits and rituals. that are important to you. He talks about that all the time and that same thing and that gives you something to fall back on in times of stress and maybe complacency.

Is that kind of what you're saying there too?

Absolutely. Yeah. And I appreciate everything you guys do. I'm, uh, I'm on day 29 of 75 hard right now. Definitely changed my life, done it every year for the past five years. And, uh,

Absolutely. Yeah. Well, thank you guys so much. I appreciate you guys taking the question. It's awesome to get to talk to you and, you know, you guys have a great weekend.

Absolutely. Yeah. Thank you. Awesome. Thanks, Andy. Thanks, TJ.

Hey guys, thanks for taking my call. I really appreciate it. Um, so I was wondering if I should get a consolidation loan for my father. Um, he's a, he has about 50,000 in debt. It's probably about 35,000 in credit cards, about 10,000 in a personal loan and probably 5,000 on a car. Um, He's making the minimum payments on all of his stuff, and he's just barely making it by.

Well, I'm kind of almost worrying about myself because he's getting older. He's about to turn 65, and I'm worried that when he gets to the point where he can't work anymore, he's going to just barely be able to cover his own payments, and I'm going to have to start paying for his...

Well, I mean, I'm a pretty new listener.

Yeah. I would say, yeah. He thinks I, I think he definitely respects my opinion. Okay.

I mean, that would definitely be tough, just him being an older guy. It is.

Yeah. Except for how much he would have to pay. At least that's what I think.

Well, yeah. So I have kind of talked to him about it, about all this stuff. And we've talked with each other about how we could try and figure it out. And, you know, he knows he needs to make a lifestyle change. He's definitely living above his means now.

So he's a real estate agent. He probably makes about $40,000 a year. And he took his Social Security early, which ended up backfiring a little bit because then after he took that, he made too much income to where now they're basically taking those Social Security payments back. They're not paying him.

$50,000.

Okay, so I just need some advice. My ex, I have a kid with my ex, and my kid is getting older, and big expenses are starting to come up, and I don't know how to tell my ex. We're pretty good co-parenting. We just talk about things a lot.

Um, but I think there's an expectation with money and I don't think I can meet their expectation with money. So I have, it's like a finance question and it's really morale. You know, like my kid needs braces or wants braces. It's not medically necessary and that's $6,000. She wants to split it with three grand a piece. I just don't have it.

Is that something I am just obligated to pay anyway and just figure it out? Or am I allowed to say no? And then there's a car that's being brought up right now and there's some big expenses coming up and she wants to split everything. And I don't know how I can really do that. Well, it's pretty common that people get sideways at this age.

It was really, really rocky in the early years. And we've worked on it really well. And I think that we're... I mean, at one point, we even had a couple of beers together. So I think we've gotten pretty okay. But I just... My kid is 15 going on 16 and she's getting so expensive now with bigger ticket items. It's not just clothes anymore.

So— We're kind of going down that path right now, and I think you're going to say no. I'm assuming you're going to say no.

Okay. Yes. Well, that's exactly kind of where she wants to go. It's not necessarily a loan. It's an IOU to her.

That's exactly how I feel.

Yeah, that's right. Have you taken her out, your 16-year-old out?

I don't know. I've, I, I used to make a lot more money and I spoiled, you know, my kid a lot and her family just used to need just handed over money.

The child support.

Um, I was just a supervisor. I just worked a lot of hours and I didn't really have a good relationship with my kid, and I made about 90 grand, and now I work at the local lumber yard. I just order lumber, and I make about 40. I actually have a separate phone call I'm going to have to call you on, Ken, about a different job. Well, that's why I bring that up.

Yeah. I mean, for the most part, I don't really... I get my paychecks and I pay my bills with it and then I don't really look at my account all that much. I just kind of know there's always a good chunk of change in there. And it usually fluctuates between $15,000 and $25,000, just kind of up and down from there. But it's not really going ahead from there because I'm kind of just living.

And I need to make some sort of a plan, I thought, because I'm making way too much money.

Absolutely.

I guess if I were to close my eyes and dream about it, it'd probably be, yeah, a house. and some sort of a business. I work as a mechanic, so some sort of a mobile mechanic truck. That's kind of the dream for me.

Hi there. Thanks for having me on today.

Well, you know, I'm a big fan of your guys' show, so I thought I'd give you a phone call. I've been making some pretty good money working up here. I work as a heavy-duty mechanic, and last year I made just shy of $200,000 a year. And I'm debt-free, but I don't have any sort of a financial plan.

And I feel like I make too much money to not have some sort of a plan, and I don't want to feel like a fool who squanders a fortune.

I'm 25 years old.

Yeah, that's kind of why I'm trying to ask the question, because I set a pretty high standard for myself.

So I've dug myself a hole, and I don't know what the right answer is. I probably do know what the right answer is, but I don't know how to get out of it. Okay. What happened? Well, to make a long story short, my wife and I got married two years ago after dating for about six years. We waited till all the kids were out of high school and we could combine households a little more easily.

After a big wedding, we started trying to pay stuff off, but the minute we got home from the honeymoon and when business became, when it became the business of a relationship, the relationship changed and that's where the problem lies. So, and, and,

The process of paying stuff off, last July we decided, because we weren't making any progress on the credit cards, we made a really wise decision to take a 401k loan for $50,000 payable in two years to pay it off. But now the credit cards are coming back. So I've got a list if you want a list, but just not sure what to do with it.

How do I fix this and keep my marriage?

Okay. Wow.

$120,000.

Okay.

So to fund an early retirement, I have a woodworking business that I do on the side. It's taking up six to eight hours a night and every weekend. And in the last two years, we've lost about $10,000 a year. Okay.

I could.

Yeah, I'm normally in my shop until between 9 and 10 o'clock every night.

So three of those cards are funding the business. One of them goes away in a week because I made a big sale.

They're put away. They're not cut up.

To be honest, we have, but then something always comes in.

a $4,000 collection item from Verizon from four years ago that we didn't know was coming, or a foreclosure for her and her ex-husband on a timeshare of all things that paid immediately because his credit doesn't need to be affected.

I know time shares your favorite word.

Um, well, she, she was obligated to pay it in a divorce. Oh, okay.

So the, the, the, the stress of the bills is weighs heavy and we, we go out and we, we go out and we do, uh, we, we go to like a craft show on the weekend and we make a little bit of money and all of a sudden we're, we're all in and we're ready to go take this business into early retirement.

But by Tuesday when it rolls around and we're back out in the shop, it's, oh, holy cow, we've got to work again.

Thank you.

Thank you.

How's it going, guys? Great.

Um, so I am 26 years old. I've been married for just about a year. Um, we bought our first starter home in end of February. Um, unfortunately we took about four, four and a half feet of water during the hurricane pretty much everything we own. Um, so, you know, we made five mortgage payments on this house pretty much still owe, you know, the full mortgage amount. Um,

And now it's essentially worth nothing. And the insurance is giving us about half of what we've been quoted to put it back together. So trying to navigate, you know, my existing finances and all of this has been a challenge.

It's certainly unlivable, but it can be repaired. It's not a total loss.

No, they seriously lowballed us. We have good flood insurance, homeowners insurance. We're kind of working through the appeal process right now. Yeah, I think it's worth you.

What's the quote? We have already spoken with one. Okay. But, you know, trying to prepare for the worst.

Yeah. So insurance is giving us 60 and it's looking like it'll be about 135 to 140. Okay.

A lot of people in the neighborhood are selling for land value or pulling $300 cash out and lifting their home to above sea level. So that's kind of the other aspect of this is we spend all this money and put it back together, and then it could happen again next year.

No, it is completely uninhabitable. So where are you now? You know... Renting. So you're paying rent plus still making the mortgage payment.

That is not part of the policy or any flood policy. So our only option there is FEMA. We're on like our third appeal with them. So obviously that's a very slow process.

About $102,000.

The mortgage is $39.50. Rent is about $9.50.

583.

Why?

1,000%.

1,000%.

100%.

It's the toast. It's Jackson, Claude, and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast. They sound amazing.

It's Jackson.

32.

It's Jackson.

100%.

OK, because one, everyone is a mom and everyone is so everyone is so secure in themselves. Like every single girl is so nice. So, you know, I just show up to an event. If I say I don't know anyone going, I don't even care because I know everyone's just so friendly and like a vibe and everyone's in their own world and has like a real life outside of being an influencer. Mm hmm.

Yeah, yeah. I'll leave that intro. That could be my only appearance for singing. Okay.

And everyone is just like also super inspiring. All of them have multiple kids and then are very hardworking influencers. Like everyone is just cool. And there's a lot of events. Yeah. And there's tons of events. And there's like the perfect amount. Yeah. Like when I've lived in New York, I remember going to multiple events every night of my life. I was like, this is too much. Yeah.

I need a real life. And I also just, I love having friends who aren't influencers too, obviously. That's how you like stay normal. Right. Like, I feel like it's like at the perfect balance. Yeah. How long have you lived in Florida?

During COVID, my husband's parents have a place on the other coast of Florida. And when we were in New York City wanting to kill ourselves, because it was the worst place in the world to be in during COVID.

Actually the worst. And they were like, okay, why don't you spend a month at our house? Because they're Canadian, so they weren't there. So we were like, okay. So we went down there, fell in love with just Florida. Yeah. You know, going to tennis and walking and working out and sun in December and no seasonal depression. And then we were like, okay, we can't live in a literal retirement community.

So we moved to Miami without knowing anything about Miami.

And where you moved immediately. Is that where you've stayed? No. So when I first moved to Miami, I lived in the Ritz in Sunny Isles. Parge-lish. No, the pargiest place on earth. Oh, I thought you were about to be like, no, not pargy. No, it was actually too good. Like I was like this, I don't deserve to be doing this at 30 years old.

You can, we had beach service, you know, you charge your drinks and food to your unit number. So you were renting an apartment there. Renting an apartment there. Gargies. Yeah, it was too gargy. Claudia, you can do that. Claudia, you can rent an apartment at the Ritz. Yeah, it was too good to be true. She would love that. Yeah, no, it was amazing.

And then we were really far north because we were in Sunny Isles. But that's a great place for coffee. Yeah, Sunny Isles Parge. And then, so now we bought a place in Edgewater and now I'm hoping to buy a house in the next year.

I'm dying for a house. I'm over the condo.

There's like you guys need a new word for there's there's toaster. Then there's like super fan. I'm super fan. Super. Okay. So you listen every day. Listen every single day. Hey, Patreon.

It's nice. Especially because I have two dogs now. I just adopted a dog.

I just rescued a dog. Yeah.

His name is Grumple Still Skin.

I know. I was going to ask you if you were going to bring Bruno. I won't.

Yeah, but I know what story you're about to tell, and I'm not as caught up on the Scooter Braun story.

Yeah, yeah. I'm definitely... This is going to be fun because I definitely have this more persona on my Instagram. I feel like it's very elevated and this just like very aesthetic girly. You're very aesthetic. I'm very aesthetic, if I do say so myself.

So now everyone's going to just listen to all the different versions.

Yeah, no, I try really hard. It's not like an effort. effortless thing. I try very hard. But in real life, I'm just like a normal girly swirly, normal galley.

Yeah.

I was on my friend's story and we were doing like Fuck, Marry, Kill or something. And I said, kill Harry Styles. And I got all attacked. Like bad, like tomatoes, tomatoes, tomatoes, tomatoes on all my photos, on everything. People coming for me. My friend Emma. It was on her story, but she must've had crazy Harry Styles fans. I got put on some Twitter. Emma who, famous?

Yeah, we love.

So it's all accessories. So we sell sunglasses,

Well, you're doing your job. We're giving the story today.

No, they both just seem like the worst at this point.

Because what last we heard was that Blake might have been threatening Taylor, right?

It's hard to know if that's true. You can't, everything's fake news nowadays. You don't know what's going on for real.

Going on for too long, too many things.

Neither did I. I couldn't even make banana bread. I tried to make banana bread the other day, and it was disgusting. Oh. Like, that's the level I'm at right now.

Yeah. So we are an accessories brand. It's kind of all about the art of accessorizing is our tagline. It's all about kind of just dressing simply and adding accessories. It's just like an easier way to get dressed. Like today I was like, shit, what do I wear? I threw on a t-shirt, jeans, and a cool belt, and earrings, and boom, done. Out the house.

Like I know it's like a moron can do it, but you know, then there's me.

There's hope for me.

Yeah.

My husband's a great cook.

I don't know. It's hard to tell. The photos are so blurry. You can't even see her dress or anything.

I don't know.

Yeah.

I feel like if they were private about their wedding, that's kind of iconic. I feel like nowadays that's cooler. To be private? Yeah.

Yeah, I guess you would do Vogue.

I was a COVID bride. I was supposed to get married to Marrakesh. Then I ended up doing like a 10 person wedding in Italy. But I have no regrets. It was the best. Do you still wear the same dress as you would have worn?

So I bought my dress for Marrakesh. So it was like, so it was like long sleeve and ornate. It wasn't big. It was like tight, just straight, but long sleeve lace. If I could do it again, I would do it differently.

No. So I ended up getting married in Tuscany. I would probably just go more like poofy classy kind of vibe.

My style has evolved too. What did you wear that you're wearing?

But also, you're a COVID bride. Can I see your wedding dress? I don't have my phone. I can show it to you after. How convenient. You can probably Google it. Yeah, that's what I just did for myself.

I had a lot of looks because my wedding was basically a week-long trip throughout Italy. With 10 people? Yeah, with just my immediate family. Oh my God, fun. It was actually the best. I have no regrets. Despite what I do, I actually despise attention. I don't like attention.

wedding is the best day of my life. Like I'm just not that person at all. But it's so easy to get sucked into it. Exactly. And that's why I'm glad I did what I did. It was just... How many people were you going to have in Marrakesh? Not that crazy. It was going to be like 80 or 90. Okay. That's so crazy.

But I loved having a small wedding. Highly recommend.

No, I don't think you do. You just have bougie accessories on, so it just makes you look more elevated. You're just making the girly swirly top look more Chanel, you know? Thanks.

Yeah. I feel like now... You could go two ways. You could either like really try to capitalize on it as an influencer or be a little bit more low key about it.

He does have the eye. And he only takes my photos now when we're on vacation because obviously I have an actual employee who is an assistant. My husband's not trying to be my everyday assistant. Right. But he crushes the photos. He's great at it. And anytime he's in my content, it does so much better. And he obviously rubs it in my face being like, you need me for engagement.

He's like, your view's looking low because I'm not in it. Like he totally torments me. But he also is like very well dressed, like fashion killer guy.

And he dresses himself. Like he, that's him.

There's my PR answer and there's my real answer. It must be hard. It's hard. It's hard because we're also just so different. I'm like rainbows and butterflies and I want to have fun. Like even when I'm working, I want it to feel fun and be fun. And he's very like serious and type A and like business. But there's a lot of pros and cons.

But at the end of the day, like the bond of like building something together is like unbreakable. And what's the PR answer about the bond? Yeah, that's my PR answer. And then my real answer is like, it's challenging. Like we are like, I'm type B, he's type A. We have no like boundaries, but we are also obsessed with each other. We spend every waking second together. We're like freaks.

I root for change the channel. I don't want to fucking watch sports.

My husband's a sports person. He used to play hockey. Oh, go off. Where did he play hockey? Like in college? Yeah, he played hockey at Harvard and then he went to go semi-pro or something. I don't even know, to be honest. Where did you go to college? Marist. You've probably never heard of it. I have M-A-R-I-S-T. Yeah, it's in upstate New York. It's like a small school.

I actually got to go Remy invited me to come see her and the vibes were 10 out of 10 it was just such a cool fun night for women like when Bethany Frankel came out I cannot even begin to tell you I was like no way is that her first of all she gave no fucks like she her energy was just like

i'm here baby like let's go like she was just shaking her ass she looked unbelievable unbelievable so it's probably like easy to have that energy when you look so amazing yes but like it was it was like deeper than that like her it was like her energy you know like her energy was just so inspiring you know to that's that's such a nice thing to like say yeah like it was just like

Yeah, exactly.

She was just like, yeah, like I'm Bethany, I'm here. And she was like, probably had like one of the most, like biggest energy there. And then Stassi was amazing.

I know. And I'm trying to get pregnant right now. So I'm like, how am I going to model the belts? Matt was like, we'll just get you an extra large. I'm like, uh, no. Oh, no, the other way.

Her body looked insane. And I know how before she was like being like, oh, I'm jiggly. Like girl, no, you're not a bitch.

you weren't jiggly at all your body was tight yeah um she looked amazing remy looked amazing remy was obviously serving it like yeah she had like such a sweet caption about her body and like the surgery and everything she's been going through obviously everyone if you don't like remy like get a life god like she's the best and like leave remy alone yeah leave her alone um who else alex earl obviously just looked stunning like i was like no surprise she's

Perfect.

Oh yeah. She was amazing. I wasn't familiar with like every single person that walked down the runway, but the vibes were just awesome and everyone looked great. And it was just like so many body types and ages and everything. It was, it was very cool.

I just think that for like the editorial side, they could do a better job. And I felt like the bikinis, like the fashion was not good. Yeah.

You can make it the size is bigger.

Sorry to interrupt you. I'm also obsessed with Salma Hayek.

Like make a choice. She's stunning. Cause like before they walk, there was a video playing of like the shoots and stuff. She didn't walk, honestly. I feel like that would have been, she doesn't need to do that. Yeah, yeah. Like of her at the shoot and she looked phenomenal. I'm like, I get why you're married to a billionaire.

Do you do anything else for swimsuit week? Yes. I went to like the Monday show. That was amazing, too. Like when I got swimwear. Yeah. Monday swim. Influence our own brand. Yeah, exactly. And the two and two best friends. So when that that was such a cool show.

like that was such a cool show with them walking down at the end because it was just i don't know the girl camaraderie of two best friends building like they monday is a big brand like they're very successful yeah and so to see them still being close like after like 10 plus years however long they've had the brand you know running it with the bestie it's cool it's amazing it is really cool i feel like swimsuit week is really on the up like the last few years i feel like it was one of those like

We're trying, we're out here trying and I'm pretty like early ish on the journey and I'm going to South of France next month. And I'm like, I feel like for the aesthetic, it would make, it feels on brand for me to conceive in the South of France.

Yeah, this is fun. And people you want to see and like dancing down the thing and smiling and it's just like pargy vibes versus like, you know, so serious. Like every time I go to fashion week, I would get depressed and now I don't go anymore.

The serotonin levels were high at swimsuit week. It's fun. I wore like this blue, tight, sparkly dress with like shell boobies. Like I normally would never be leaving the house like that, but I'm like, okay, when in Miami swim week, let's go. That's so fun.

Yeah, so I'm using Inido, which is like you pee in a stick and then you put it into the thing. And then, yeah, that's the main one I'm using.

The stick peeing is like the most precise. But I'm getting a little confused about the chart.

Claudia was the one who told me to...

I like this one better because I was like, I had just a million sticks and I was like, okay, which one's darker? Like I was trying to read it. And this one you just put into your phone and it reads it.

Queen. I feel bad with how much drama there is with her and her family. It's like, okay, no amount of success and money in the world can take away how your family is.

Like the hills and all that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No in between.

Oh, you know what my favorite, like My Super Sweet 16.

I'm going to argue with you and say that being on Fat Camp Show wasn't your peak.

Yeah, I know. I feel like that too. I feel like I don't. She could be Taylor Swift level if she was like playing the cards, right?

And the funny thing is, it's like I'm such a prude. I normally like my whole life. I was never the type of person who like talked about my sex life. And now just like out the window, like I'm with my girlfriends being like, okay, I had sex on this day. You know, like it's like you now enter this new era where you're totally fine discussing your sex life with people.

Yeah, that's what's hard. It's like you have to be super commercial. There's a fine balance of being commercial and being. She won't do it. Yourself. Commercial.

You guys had a billboard the other week.

I feel like hopefully I'll bring in like a totally different type of audience today. I look forward to it.

Yeah, because my demo is a little older.

Yeah.

I'm 34.

Yeah. Interesting. I'm a millennial to my core.

What's like, do you know the percent of what Gen Z is the toast?

For sure. I also think- she is kind of like a child star and as we know lots of the child stars have a lot of like trauma and things to work through I I saw the funniest Tick Tock the other day actually that was this like Gen Z girl being like Jojo Siwa a lesbian got a boyfriend And I still can't get a boyfriend.

And I was like, oh, I get why some of the Gen Z girlies are being like, I can't get a boyfriend, but JoJo Siwa can.

Yeah, this is business. I know. I'm like, get home. We got to have sex. Yeah.

She's like a star. Yeah, no, she has like a big personality. She seems sweet and nice and like funny. And like, I'm sure she's like fun and funny to be around.

For sure. And I feel like she is like young that she's in her experiment phase.

You know, just trying to figure herself out.

Like nothing.

Yeah. No one was like a total bitch backstage. No, no. I feel like I don't I get lucky that I don't really encounter people like that anymore.

Yeah, no, for sure. When I was younger, like for more like a few years ago living in New York, there was a lot of influencers who were rude.

I've never sent nude photos. I've never done anything.

I feel like it's so much more fun to do it with a co-host. And then, so then if I'm by myself.

Yeah.

I feel like she'd be awful.

The way I manage my team is actually hilarious. The lines of professionalism are so blurred, it's actually out of control. My assistants are like, I literally joke that I pay them to be my friends. I'm like, hi, guys. What's happening? I do all my Zooms of important business in a robe and a towel on my head. I'm like, sorry, guys. Running late. Didn't have time to get ready. Here I am.

Women in business. Yeah, women in business. There's no rules. And anytime my husband tries to yell at me, I'm like...

this is how i manage the girlies and this is how i operate you're doing something right you're doing a lot of things right yeah i think i just really care and like it's very honest and very much just like authentic of what i'm trying to make i'm just trying to make the the girls look cuter no you really do so everyone can check out oreum at oreum.collective code toast20 yep you can check out cass's instagram which is incrediblypargy at castamico

Yes, the Instagram aesthetic doesn't match the personality. As you guys hopefully saw today, I'm like- No, I'm glad that we- Much more fun than I am on my Instagram.

Yeah, if you want more just fun stuff. I vlogged being like- I'm going on the toast. Oh, my God. Could I be involved?

Yeah, I will.

Okay, amazing. Because I could be, like, co-hosting with the Jacqueline Follet. Like, title that. Oh, no, that's not good for SEO.

You know, just being Pargy.

Who the fuck is Jacqueline Follet?

Yeah, we're going to Saint Tropez for a week with just my husband and I, and then we're renting a house with our good friends who have four kids for a week. Oh, fun. I'm so excited. How old are their kids? They have two twin girls who just turned five yesterday. I was at their unicorn birthday party. It was the best day of my life. Then they have a son who's six and a son who's, I think, seven.

Nice.

I'm too excited. Like, it's actually a problem. This morning, I was literally singing in the shower.

That's crazy. That's like Danny and Nia on the Valley. No, but I'm obsessed. I'm like, I want this giant full family with so much life. I don't know. I love it. I literally didn't want kids until I met them. Oh, interesting.

Do you have a lot of siblings? I have a brother, but I'm not that close with him. And yeah, I don't know. I more like career stuff. I was kind of always just being weird about being like, how am I going to keep up work?

I know. And that's why I've been trying to shift my content a little bit like I just started vlogging again and like for YouTube and I've been loving it. I feel like I have this like whole new vibe where it's totally just being myself. Like I'm saying shit that I'll totally get canceled for and I just don't care.

Morning girlies, it's the toast.

Like after watching Paul American, my brain chemistry changed and I was like, I need to not give a fuck.

Interesting. I've never heard that. I just think that their attitudes are just not caring because I feel like every year that goes by, like I've been, you've been the same way. I've been doing content for years.

years like 10 years and I it's caught into a place where I'm just so scared to even show even the tiniest bit of personality because I'm like I'm gonna get canceled yeah if I'm doing this bougie-ness and that and that's like you can get canceled for literally anything nowadays like I'll think about what I said and like then you

think about like the way someone could interpret it and it's like well that's not what i said but if that's what you're gonna think is it worth it exactly so i've been very playing it like too safe the last few years where i'm just posting photos no personality nothing like not sharing any bit of myself and honestly like a month ago i was like you know what i'm actually a delight

I used that audio the other day, by the way, at the SI thing. That is so funny. I had to post it on TikTok being like, we are just such a delight. And it's true. You know what? I'm actually a nice person and I know where my intentions are.

I mean, go to my husband's Instagram. You can see a million heinous photos of me unedited.

No, no, no. So I used to be an assistant buyer. I was like working in New York city. I was doing like product development, things like that. Then I was doing influencing on the side to try to get a better job. I really wanted to, I was, I was a buyer for Lord and Taylor. Okay. which is like lame, you know? And I really wanted to work for like Revolve, Shopbop, applying. I knew no one.

I had no connections. No one was answering me. So I was like, okay, why don't I put my outfits on a blog? You know, this was a really long time ago, on a blog to show my taste to hopefully get a better job. So then it started to pick up. My Instagram started to pick up. I started to get brand deals that were more than what I was making at my job. So then I finally quit my job.

2017.

And then 2019, my husband was working in finance. He's a trader. He's like a total like type A dude. And we were like, what if we started a brand together? Because we would make like the perfect team.

So... Yeah. I'm like, you do the boring shit.

So we started the brand together. So we started Orium together and yeah, that's how it all came about. I feel like something that's also unique to Orium is like, I actually design every single thing, you know, I'm not like doing any AliExpress things or anything sketchy. And I just like, it's like my passion. It's literally such an extension of me. I care about it so much.

I feel like I'm using, I'm definitely playing the long game, which is what I try to tell myself when we're not growing as fast as I wish we were. Where I'm like, okay, we're doing everything right and we're creating product that someone wants outside of me. I don't want someone to just, it's just a different game, right?

Like when you're selling merch or something and someone's buying it because they just love you, that's like one thing. But I always wanted to create product that people would love even if they had no idea who I am, which is definitely what we have achieved.

Yeah, so Orium is orium.collective. I can make like a code if anyone wants to try the shop.

Toast20, there you go.

Okay, I would have brought you stuff. No, I know, but I want to support like a toaster-owned business. That's very nice. I mean, it's actually crazy the amount of influencers and celebrities that purchase from us.

Yeah, yeah. We've been on like every celebrity. It's been crazy.

I'm always joking. I'm like, for anyone listening, you too can become fan, super fan, co-host.

Yeah, dreams come true. How long have you been listening to The Toast? Okay, so that's the part I'm not that proud of. Like I started like early in the beginning of the year last year. Okay, better late than never. Yeah, so like I'm coming up on probably like a little over a year and a half.

And whenever you guys take a break, I'm like, okay, maybe I go back to old episodes.

Did you see how I answered the email in points? one second i think you guys emailed me at 10.05 i think i responded at 10.05 i think you were also in all caps being like yes hence why she's the first guest i was like way to not play cool whatsoever it's an order of response yeah exactly i was like me i'm available

I know, just living the best life. Now we've got to get Claudia to move.

The influencer scene in Miami is the coolest influencer scene ever. I do say so myself.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, you should.

19. 19.

Yikes.

It's Jackson.

Yeah.

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