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Jacob Kimmel

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
972 total appearances

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

You can't just be a freeloader.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

You need to get calories, go out in the jungle, get some berries.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

I entirely agree with that particular thesis.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

You know, I think in biology in general, when you're trying to engineer a given property, be it being healthier longer, be it making something more intelligent, and this is true even at the micro level of trying to engineer a system to manufacture a protein at high efficiency, you always have to start by asking yourself, did evolution spend a lot of time optimizing this?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

If yes, my job is going to be insanely hard.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

If no, potentially there are some low-hanging fruit.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

And so I think this is a good argument for why potentially intelligence wasn't strongly selected for.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

And I think actually the lifespan argument plays back into intelligence to a degree.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

You start to ask, okay, if I have intelligence that's able to compound over time and I can develop, you know, for instance, in some hypothetical universe, my fluid intelligence lasts much longer in my lifespan.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

Right.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

If the number of people who are reaching something like 65 is very small in a population, you're not necessarily going to select for alleles that lead to fluid intelligence preservation late into life.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

This is actually part of my own pet hypothesis around some of the interesting phenomenology in when discoveries are made throughout lifespans.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

So there are some famous results where, for instance, I'm going to get the exact age a little bit wrong, but in mathematics, most great discoveries happen roughly before 30.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

Why should that be true?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

That doesn't make sense.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

You can sort of put down a bunch of societal reasons for it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

Oh, maybe you sort of become staid in your ways.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

Your teachers have caused you to restrict your thinking by that point.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

But really, that's true across centuries.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

That's true across many different unique cultures around the world.