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Jacob Kimmel

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
972 total appearances

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

They're just too small.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

And then the other classic modalities we have are recombinant proteins.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

We make a protein like a hormone in a big vat.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

We grow it in some Chinese hamster ovary cells.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

We extract it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

We inject it into you.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

This is how, for instance, like human insulin works that we make today.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

Or you make antibodies, antibodies produced by the immune system.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

These run around and find proteins that have a particular sequence.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

They buy into it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

And often they just like stop it from working by glomming a big thing onto the side.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

So those are too big to get through the cell membrane, so then they can't actually get to a TF or do anything directly.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

So we take these bank shots.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

So what changes that today and why I think it's pretty exciting is we now have new nucleic acid and genetic medicines where you can, for instance, deliver RNAs to a cell that can get through using tricks like lipid nanoparticles.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

You wrap them in a fat bubble.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

It looks kind of like a cell membrane.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

It can fuse with a cell, put the mRNAs in the cytosol.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

You can make a copy of a transcription factor there.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

And then it translocates to the nucleus the same way a natural one would and exerts its effect.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

And likewise, there are other ways to do this using things like viral vectors.