Jacob Shymanski

What were the implications of that?

Explaining, not just telling the what.

Right, and when you say episode, you mean an episode of My Life in Books.

My Life in Books, yes.

So to be clear, the do for nonfiction in this case was answer the why beyond the what.

Don't just give us a list of what happened.

We want to know why.

Another book that I can recommend along these lines is Everything is Tuberculosis by John Green.

I really love John Green.

He's an American author and

And this book, Everything is Tuberculosis, is essentially, on paper, the history of tuberculosis.

But he could just give you the history, you know, in chronological order and everything we know about it.

But really, the book is about everything.

why John Green is so fascinated by the history of tuberculosis.

And he does that by presenting this story of a tuberculosis patient in Sierra Leone called Henry and the relationship that develops with him while he's there visiting.

And it's this like crossover between the story of Henry and the history of tuberculosis and all the wacky things around it and how tuberculosis has really shaped humanity.

But it all comes back to why it's so fascinating to him.

So it's kind of personal, but it's more than just a factual history book.

You're getting the real story of Henry.

You're getting to learn about John Green and...