Jacob Szymanski

And I wanted to ask him about the dialogue.

Because anytime you go online, that's the one thing people mention.

The dialogue.

You'll find that...

His main character, Istvan, is very passive and doesn't really engage too much in conversation.

And when I mentioned that to him, he kind of disagreed with me.

And it is a weird position, Red, to have a Booker Prize winner disagree with you on your literary analysis.

That's interesting, because you have to make that decision as an audiobook producer.

Do you keep the silence in?

My recommendation would be to just have the narrator just breathe heavily to show that their presence is still there.

There's not something wrong with the audiobook.

Coming from Mr. Red Sail.

Yeah.

By the way, for people who are curious, the reason there are blank pages in the print book is to represent the passage of time, which is a pretty important theme in the book.

So really interesting decision on how to translate that to an audiobook version.

So please keep us posted on that.

Also, Red, side note, you listen to audiobooks on your iPod?

It's 2025.

What do you mean you have an iPod?

Yeah.