Jacob Szymanski

Moving on to a clip from an interview that came out of a big story at the time.

It has to do with Audible's royalty structure changing.

And it features two people who are really big on YouTube of quite the audiences.

And they rose the flag on this whole scenario and put out a bunch of videos that got circulated.

And they ended up coming on the show.

I'm talking about Robin Sullivan and Daniel Green.

They came on the show earlier this fall to talk about it as well.

Here's the clip.

That episode, if you want to go back to listen to it, is titled Fair Pay, Fair Play, Royalty Issues at Audible and originally aired September 6th, 2025.

And Red, I don't know how much of this story has made your way to you as someone who's like pretty deeply involved in audiobooks.

Did it make it away to you?

If you want to go back to that episode, everything that Robin and Daniel said in the episode still applies today.

It still applies today.

Nothing's really changed.

But they do a really good job at explaining a very complicated royalty system.

But the short version is that it ends up screwing over so many people.

And you have to give Audible their flowers for developing the audiobook industry.

There's a reason they are who they are today.

Nowadays in 2025, they are a monopoly.

There's no doubt about that and they're acting monopolistically.