Jacqueline Novogratz

We know this because we've seen this.

And though this is hard, it is eminently within our reach.

In history, there aren't that many chances to do something as big and important and as difficult as bringing electricity to everyone on the planet.

But I sometimes ask myself, in 100 years, what will that generation say about us?

Will they gasp in astonishment?

and say, we were the ones that finally brought electricity and possibility and human dignity to everyone.

Or will they wonder how could they have averted their eyes and left hundreds of millions behind?

I hope they say, we learned to control capital and technology and not be controlled by it.

I hope they say we cared, that we did hard things, that we loved the world, and in doing so, we set ourselves free.

The poet Hafiz wrote, even after all these years, the sun never says to the earth, you owe me.

Look what happens with a love like that.

It lights the whole sky.

So let's get going.

Thank you.

I am so excited to have this conversation with C. Toyo for so many reasons, but three that I'll start with.

First of all, he disrupted the first two industries I worked in.

I started off in traditional banking and then in 1986 co-founded the first microfinance bank in Rwanda, both disrupted by M-Pesa.

For the last 25 years, I've been investing in social enterprises focused on solving problems of poverty.

And for the last 20, M-Pesa has fundamentally accelerated them.

And the second reason is the unexpected.