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Just a fun fact.

That's it.

But Oliver and Harvey, they were pretty good friends.

They corresponded, stayed in touch when they lived in different places in the country.

Actually, Harvey even loaned Oliver money sometimes because Oliver didn't have a job.

He, you know, collected disability from his time in the Marines.

But anyway.

When Oliver got to San Francisco, reconnected with his old friend.

Ken was actually friends with Harvey, worked on one of his campaigns.

But this, I'm sorry.

No, no, no.

And I'm just thinking like one of the things we were talking about on the phone was about sort of the kind of two different schools or two different.

They would show up to like a rally.

And like ask for their rights politely.

Because according to Ken, the activism came... When in the late 60s, early 70s, you had young gay men and women...

who came out of the Vietnam War protests into the world.

Took a look around.

The police are still raiding bars.

One of them has said, queer faggot, we're going to beat the shit out of you.

Some to that effect, we're going to kill you.