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Harvey just did it.

So Cain, the next morning, Cain arrives at his office.

He listens to the message.

And Cain tries to call Sipple, but he can't reach him.

But there was another guy who was a gay activist.

His name was the Reverend Ray Broshears.

He was the head of what was called the Lavender Panthers.

And he also independently called Herb Cain to say, oh, that guy Oliver Sipple everyone's talking about on the news?

So you got two independent sources, both of people who said that they were friends with Sipple and that he was gay.

And for Kane, I think this was juicy.

This was a juicy thing.

And he was let me just like go back and get this.

So two days after the assassination attempt, Cain's column comes out.

And then, that day, this guy named Daryl Lemke.

Lemke.

L-E-M-B-K-E.

Picks up his issue of the Chronicle, sees Herb Cain's column.

The office of the Los Angeles Times.

But really quickly before we get there, we actually managed to find the recording of this very specific interview in the LA Times collection at the Huntington Library in Los Angeles.

And I think the reason they hung on to it was because it was kind of controversial.