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Jad Abumrad

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Radiolab
Oliver Sipple

But then right here in this interview, this thing happens where Daryl says, I'll make one more try on the gay thing.

Radiolab
Oliver Sipple

I'll make one more try on the gay thing.

Radiolab
Oliver Sipple

You don't want to change your mind on it.

Radiolab
Oliver Sipple

You don't want to change your mind on that.

Radiolab
Oliver Sipple

No, I just don't want to change my mind on that.

Radiolab
Oliver Sipple

And eventually... Okay.

Radiolab
Oliver Sipple

Interview ends and Daryl says that when he left that interview, he felt like when it came to Oliver's sexuality... He didn't want to be quoted.

Radiolab
Oliver Sipple

That was it.

Radiolab
Oliver Sipple

Like, just don't quote me on it.

Radiolab
Oliver Sipple

This Air Force sergeant named Leonard Matlovich, who had the purple heart, had the bronze star, he comes out that he's gay and he's kicked out of the Air Force.

Radiolab
Oliver Sipple

In conversations here, people say that

Radiolab
Oliver Sipple

My conscience just wouldn't let me do it anymore.

Radiolab
Oliver Sipple

I had to come forward and say, no more America.

Radiolab
Oliver Sipple

And now you've got this former Marine, saved the president's life, and it's two days later, he still hasn't heard from the president.

Radiolab
Oliver Sipple

So for Daryl, even though Oliver had said, don't make this about my sexuality.

Radiolab
Oliver Sipple

So that night, after the interview, Daryl calls in his story to the LA Times office, and he uses this phrase.

Radiolab
Oliver Sipple

He says that Oliver is a former Marine who was, quote, a prominent figure in the gay community.

Radiolab
Oliver Sipple

And so three days after the assassination attempt, the L.A.

Radiolab
Oliver Sipple

Times runs a story with the headline, no call from president, hero in Ford shooting active among SF gays.

Radiolab
Oliver Sipple

And so Daryl's story, it goes, I mean, it goes everywhere.