Jaden Schaefer

Someone emails a payload that is wrapped in polite language and then this agent can read it and then basically everything else in the email is irrelevant, but there's some sort of attack or some sort of instruction to go click on a link and it sidetracks it and...

downloads malware onto your computer.

So obviously not great.

Uh, there's definitely some, some guardrails that need to be put into, in place for all of this.

Uh, you know, things like don't trust external inputs.

Um, so anyways, there's, it's not perfect, but I think it's, it's still a great tool and it's an interesting thing as, as we can see with a lot of people using it.

So, so where is this company going and what is its background?

So Steinberg didn't actually take, I think, the most traditional path in building this.

He essentially vibe coded this as a weekend project.

It kind of went viral to some small degree and he put a ton of work into it.

He didn't raise any sort of money for it.

He didn't have a team.

It was all himself.

And this is from a guy that previously had started and sold a company.

But now he was working on this kind of just solo on his own.

I think he talked about having interest after this thing started going viral.

OpenAI and Meta both talked to him.

Meta's pitch, apparently, according to him, was Mark Zuckerberg, who spent a week using OpenClaw and sending detailed feedback to him on it, which, I mean, honestly, that alone is pretty cool.

OpenAI's pitch was a little bit more structural.

They're like, hey, we can give you compute, we can give you infrastructure, we can give you access to basically all of the latest models and research.