Jaden Schaefer

and OpenAI for research in the same thread and it's $20 a month.

So I'll leave a link to that down in the description if you want to try that out.

I hope that saves you a ton of money not having to switch between different subscriptions and also a ton of time having everything in one central hub.

All right, let's get into the episode.

So the thing that I think is important to kind of preface all of this by saying is that today we have like a growing amount of people, tons,

that are already going to things like ChatGPT and Anthropic and basically using those as a first stop for everything that you're doing, especially in health, if you're gonna be doing checking for symptoms, if you have medication questions.

I know for myself, when my kids are sick, I don't go to WebMD like I used to.

ChatGPT seems to be doing a really great job with that.

And I think what a lot of people find is that these aren't doctors, ChatGPT is not a doctor, but it can have really

really impressive medical context.

It asks really impressive smart follow-up questions.

And I think it also helps the user, like if you're using it, it helps you articulate and say what your concerns are going to be.

And some of these things, which I thought was an interesting point I was talking to someone recently about, and they're like, sometimes when you're using ChatGPT and it has kind of these follow-up questions, if you had like a really rushed appointment at the doctor, you might have missed some of

some asking some of these questions some of your concerns and so you could get all of that out to chat gpt there's been a ton of really interesting cases where people have been seeing specialists for many many years couldn't diagnose or figure out what their issue were and they went to chat gpt listed out just everything had a conversation and it finds kind of these specialized um diagnoses which

ended up being correct so it is a fantastic tool i think this is a really big behavioral shift um and because of all of this kj dewally is trying to build this new company lotus health so he like his background is that he initially sold um a dating app called d-mail this is kind of a south asian dating app he sold back in 2019 for 50 million dollars

And after that, his interest in healthcare, he said, is something that he's kind of always been curious about.

He said when he was a kid he often acted as a translator for his parents during doctor visits.

And he said, because of that, that kind of showed him a lot of the early friction, the time pressure, a lot of the communication issues that were kind of baked into the US healthcare system.

And so he said, when modern LLMs arrived, when ChatGPT came out, he saw them less as this chatbot and more as an opportunity to kind of rebuild primary care from the ground up.

This was kind of his vision.