Jaden Schaefer

And so he wanted to get in with it.

Originally, his goal when he was building this company, though, Broder, he said that he was envisioning building just a 10 person billion dollar company.

That was his goal.

He just wanted this to be like super lean.

And, you know, with AI agents and especially because his company is an AI agent company, I think that would have been some incredible marketing to be like, look, we reached, you know, a billion dollar, a billion dollar valuation.

And we've just done the whole thing with just 10 people.

And we've been using AI agents.

There's an interesting report that came out.

It's kind of went viral yesterday on X, which is that for like getting for getting Anthropic up to like over a billion dollar valuation.

There was only one person on the go to market strategy team and he was just using.

And I actually think up until quite recently, it was one guy running all of their GDM and he was just using tons of agents powered by Claude to do everything.

And so I'm sure that's like kind of like a marketing thing.

But I think the guy leaked that out himself.

It wasn't like Anthropic was trying to make a big point of it.

So I thought that was hilarious.

It's definitely possible more than you'd think.

But of course, according to Broder, in the case of Gumloop, he said demand from enterprise customers basically pushed them to scale more aggressively so they had to add a lot of engineers and a dedicated sales team, which makes sense, right?

And I know it's like, well, why can't the AI do the sales?

And realistically, people usually want to talk to a person on a call and not be sold by an AI agent that you can't really verify and put a face to.

Gumloop definitely isn't alone, though.