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Jaden Schaefer

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Elon Musk Seeks $134B from OpenAI and Microsoft

So his allegation is that OpenAI violated their original nonprofit mission and that both organizations benefited financially from his early involvement, which I mean, I guess there's like so much beef with OpenAI.

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Elon Musk Seeks $134B from OpenAI and Microsoft

I don't want to get into it, but I can sort of see where he's coming from on Microsoft because he did just donate money to OpenAI.

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Elon Musk Seeks $134B from OpenAI and Microsoft

And then Microsoft came in and made an investment in OpenAI and took like half the company.

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Elon Musk Seeks $134B from OpenAI and Microsoft

So I mean, Microsoft most definitely has, you know, got a lot to gain from his donation.

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Elon Musk Seeks $134B from OpenAI and Microsoft

So if you look at all of his court filings, he's essentially arguing that kind of his financial and technical and reputation all contributed to OpenAI's early development.

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Elon Musk Seeks $134B from OpenAI and Microsoft

And to be fair, I think he did do a bunch of work at the beginning and he got on a bunch of the early founders of OpenAI.

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Elon Musk Seeks $134B from OpenAI and Microsoft

Like he went, you know, personally and headhunted and recruited them.

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Elon Musk Seeks $134B from OpenAI and Microsoft

He also says that he gave about $38 million to the company, which was about 60% of their early seed funding.

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Elon Musk Seeks $134B from OpenAI and Microsoft

So, you know, more than 50%, but there was other people involved in this as well.

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Elon Musk Seeks $134B from OpenAI and Microsoft

And then he also helped with, you know, all of the staff recruiting, advising on, you know, scaling the business.

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Elon Musk Seeks $134B from OpenAI and Microsoft

He gave a lot of credibility to the project when it was really, you know, a new project back in 2015 and 2018.

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Elon Musk Seeks $134B from OpenAI and Microsoft

So he's, you know, he's claiming damages and he's saying that these are all based on analysis by financial economist,

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Elon Musk Seeks $134B from OpenAI and Microsoft

See Paul was then who essentially did some calculations on what Elon Musk is calling wrongful gains, which came from his contribution, his 60 percent, his 38 million dollars that he put into the company.

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Elon Musk Seeks $134B from OpenAI and Microsoft

So his filing is estimating that OpenAI got about sixty five point five billion and one hundred and nine billion dollars in value from what he did at the beginning.

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Elon Musk Seeks $134B from OpenAI and Microsoft

Microsoft gained more than $13.3 billion and $25.1 billion, according to Paul Wazon's calculations.

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Elon Musk Seeks $134B from OpenAI and Microsoft

So Elon Musk is arguing that similar to early stage startup investors, contributors can realize returns far exceeding their initial investment if the company later achieves significant value, the growth in their valuation, if their company becomes worth a lot more.

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Elon Musk Seeks $134B from OpenAI and Microsoft

So OpenAI, of course, has disputed both the legal and the financial basis of everything that Elon Musk is saying.

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Elon Musk Seeks $134B from OpenAI and Microsoft

OpenAI has described this as sort of unfounded and says that Elon Musk was aware of their plans to adopt a capped for-profit structure.

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Elon Musk Seeks $134B from OpenAI and Microsoft

So that's interesting.

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Elon Musk Seeks $134B from OpenAI and Microsoft

Microsoft also denied that they did anything wrong.